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Old 01-23-2013, 10:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My 9 week old girl has had a bacterial vaginitis infection a few weeks ago. She was put on amoxicillin, and has now become a Uti. They put her on a Bactrim type antibiotic recently.

She is Very active, grows like a weed and tends to be an aggressive biter when she plays. We're working on bite inhibition. She gets time outs, doesn't respond to Ouch, Ow, or No. What works is yelping like a puppy.

I have her on taste of the wild puppy. I was thinking about large breed puppy, to maybe slow down her growth, in worry of phosphates and calcium, and lower her protein to calm her butt down.

Any advice? Was thinking about wellness large breed puppy or breeders select large breed puppy Or adult. A rep told me about royal canin lg breed pup, but it has crap ingredients in it. I also heard to put them on an all stage food. Grrr, so frustrated with too many choices. She's growing fast. At 8
Weeks she was 14.6 lbs. her Ph read 7.5 last week from urinalysis. Spaz doberman pup-imageuploadedbypg-free1358959506.314218.jpgSpaz doberman pup-imageuploadedbypg-free1358959523.902056.jpg


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Old 01-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not as up on canine nutrition as a lot of members of the forum, so I can only speak from my own experience. When Elka was on a "large breed puppy food", she ended up knuckling over in her front legs (and if you search the forum, some members have had more issues with that in their puppies than others). I caught it very early, though, and switched her to an adult food (and subsequently an all stages food) and the situation righted itself. I fed Holistic Select at the time, but she's been on Taste of the Wild for awhile now (except our brief flirtation with Blue Buffalo) and I've been very happy with it.
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Yep, reading all those dog food labels I found to be overwhelming. I just switched to raw!

ETA: I dont think the food is going to calm her butt down! LOL
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Finding ways to stimulate her mentally and lots of play is what will help calm her down. Protein intake is not the reason for her energy level. Fiona ate like a bird (sometimes less) yet she had boundless energy. We would go to puppy class for an hour where she'd bark at me, bite me, tug on her leash, jump on anyone within reach, and then when we'd get home she'd leap from sofa to sofa in the living room, throwing any toys I handed her (my failed attempts at redirecting her), tugging on the area rug, trying to pull cushions off the sofas... *sigh* She was a challenging puppy, for sure.

Also, lucky you that yelping works to stop her biting. Yelping just excited Fiona more; like I was showing weakness and that was her perfect opportunity to take me down. My arms and legs looked like I was living with a small tiger for the first couple months.

As for nutrition, some people give cranberry supplements to be proactive for urinary tract health. If she has a hooded vulva then the area can stay damp and promote bacteria growth. You can try wiping her after she potties to help keep her dry and clean.

I'm not sure that there's a food that makes much difference in urinary tract health. I'd say any good brand all life stages food would be fine.
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We giver her one cranberry capsule in her food per day. The vet told me to wash her HooHoo with antibacterial hand soap every day also. She's really good about that.

We have a consultation tomorrow about her ears being done. Probably will draw her blood too.

Ya, our hands look all chewed up, from her biting. I play with her until she tires out. When I come home from work, I completely ignore her. Otherwise she gets over stimulated and starts to bite.

We've been allowing our older Doberman to correct her. She has been a blessing to the pup. They play quietly, and Gracie (7 yr old dobe) follows her in our yard. She will actually sun bathe with her. The moment she gets too carried away, Gracie stands over her and Simone just sits quietly. Why can't we have that same effect??

She is definitely a challenge. My first doberman girl was passive. My older girl is an alpha, but never was this naughty. This chic, Simone is a little demon spawn. When she gets mad she pulls the blankets off her exercise pen and dumps her food bowl. She lets us know she's mad! Her favorite toy is a empty plastic water bottle.

I guess I can just buy an all stages food for her. I just didn't know if I should wait for her uti (antibiotics) and ears are done, plus she had her 1st shots last week. Didn't know if too much change would make a difference.



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As for nutrition, some people give cranberry supplements to be proactive for urinary tract health. If she has a hooded vulva then the area can stay damp and promote bacteria growth. You can try wiping her after she potties to help keep her dry and clean.

I'm not sure that there's a food that makes much difference in urinary tract health. I'd say any good brand all life stages food would be fine.
The cranberry will work to prevent the recurrence of vaginitis, too... my girl was quite prone to this, and I ended up just giving cranberry for the duration. I like Solaray CranActin... I think it is some better than many of the other products available.

Food can make a difference for the urinary tract. Animal protein tends to promote acidic urine, and carbohydrates tend to shift the urine pH more into the alkaline range.
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My pup (17 weeks old tomorrow) is on Taste of the Wild High Prairie Puppy (and has been since I brought him home, it's what he was fed at the breeders). He does awesome on it. I briefly switched him to a large breed puppy food, and within a week he had a UTI, was itchy and shedding like crazy, and had a flare up of Panosteitis (in both front legs about 5 days between each leg flaring up).

Now I am not saying that the food I switched him to was the culprit, but having had a dog with serious food allergies in the past, I put him right back on the TOTW when I noticed the itching/shedding and then the UTI. Since being back on the TOTW (and of course finishing his antibiotics for the UTI) he has been back to his normal self with a beautiful, shiny coat, not itchy at all, and so far no more Pano flare ups. The only complaint I have about the TOTW is that he gets a bit gassy on it, but his poops are nice and solid.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Back from vet. He heard abnormal heart beat. Wanted an ultrasound done before he crops her ears, if everything is okay. He's one of the top three vets that does beautiful ears. We value his opinion, since he did our older girls ears.

We stopped at our normal vet, and 2 vets listened to her heart. Shes going in tomorrow for an cardiac ultrasound, to see what's going on.

My husband and I are frustrated and stressed. We're hoping if anything, it's a heart murmur that she'll grow out of. If needed be, she'll have natural ears. No bad feelings here, we lost our eldest, and she was all natural.

I'm crossing my fingers and toes that she's okay. My heart can't handle too much more since losing Shelby in September. I just want to scream!!!

Poor baby peed and puked on me from the long time we were gone.


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