mabarker

Hi all, I will be bringing my show prospect pup home and am trying to pick a food brand. My last dobe had a super sensitive stomach and we bounced around to severl different foods, including several formulas of Innova, TOTW, GO!, and NOW and Orijin. I prefer to feed grain free, and am planning one meal kibble, one meal my own cooked concoction (which includes game meat, cottage cheese/and or plain yogurt, yams, and a vaiety of veggies and fruit, with salmon oil).
I had problems with Pano with my last pup when he was little, and understand that there is a such thing as "too much" protein, and Im not looking to grow my pup super fast. I know what to look for on a label ingredient wise, but what about optimal precentages of prtein and fat?? Look forward to your input. FWIW, I checked on the brand that the breeder is currently feeding in our local stores, and it is not available to me, so I need to switch it up.

mmctaq

I do not believe that there is an issue with too much protein, but with too much food and too-high mineral content. Too much food promotes too-rapid growth, and too much calcium can lead to improper skeletal growth. Dunno what you fed your pano pup, but at least one of the kibbles you listed (GO!) should NOT be fed to pups... not even the product specifically for puppies!

If half of this pup's food will be composed of homecooked meals, I would suggest that you get on to a list which deals with that like K9Kitchen : dog diets raw cooked allergies disease or K9Nutrition : Dog Nutrition and Health. Cooking tends to be some more complicated than raw, and half is a high enough percentage of the diet that screwing up would not be a good idea, particularly for a growing pup.

When I was still feeding kibble (back in The Dark Ages LOL!), I had ten or twelve different products that I rotated through without any ado... different proteins, different manufacturers, etc. If I HAD to go back to kibble, I would do the same again.

pdubois64

http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/ORIJEN_White_Paper.pdf

http://files.championpetfoods.com/Hi...reed_Study.pdf

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Sherryh

Ask LindaH on the forum she is up to date on this better than me....

LindaH

Thanks, Sherry , but I think mmctaq covered it pretty well.

I would suggest Orijen LBP as I think it is the best kibble out there.

I also don't believe high protein foods are harmful, but too many calories fed causes growth problems/pano. Try reading the sticky in the puppy section about Overgrowing Your Puppy...

You need to know what you are doing BEFORE you start feeding raw or cooked raw to a large breed puppy

Posted in your announcement thread that my Parker is a half brother to Smartie. Small world indeed!

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Anton-Caesar

No such thing as too much protein, its the calcium that can lead to problems, if i remember rightly puppies cannot get rid of excess calcium like adult dogs so they just try to utilise all of the calcium you give them, make sure the food is less that 1.6% calcium

Orijen LBP is fine (and very good) you may find stools are loose because of the high protein, i fed Caes on Orijen but have since switched him to Acana Wild Prairie as the Orijen was too rich now he is fine, both are made by Champion Petfoods, id recommend either

Rouleaux

I had a question about protein consumption in a growing pup and this answers it.

Protein content isn't a huge deal but the amount of any food you feed can cause you to grow your pup too fast and excessive Ca levels can cause improper skeletal growth.

Thanks

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