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DILUTE and Have to switch brands

SOOOOOO annoyed! Both petsmart and petco locally have discontinued selling the AvoDerm Grain Free, and now I have to switch. Leo is a 6 year old fawn and has done BEAUTIFULLY on this food. Im so bummed.

Picked blue buffalo wilderness, salmon. Anyone with a dilute feed this?
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Should post the ingredients that are in the AvoDerm you were feeding, and maybe someone can find a food with similar ingredients.

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My neighbor, who has a boxer with food allergies, is having the same problem finding Avoderm. They switched to Taste of the Wild for her...not sure if the ingredients are similar in the 2 foods, but I know that it's working for this particular dog. It's a pain in the butt to have to experiment with new food when the other stuff was working for them!


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SOOOOOO annoyed! Both petsmart and petco locally have discontinued selling the AvoDerm Grain Free, and now I have to switch. Leo is a 6 year old fawn and has done BEAUTIFULLY on this food. Im so bummed.

Picked blue buffalo wilderness, salmon. Anyone with a dilute feed this?
I put Gemma (fawn) on the Blue buffalo wilderness salmon and she instantly developed bald scaly pimply spots

Wasn't sure if it was the food or other issues. She only 7 months, so I changed her food back.

She was just skin scraped last week, test was clear, had a full panel thyroid testing done, clear, now doing a fungal test which the vet thinks will also be clear.

Vet thinks it may be enviromental allergies, since she's so young for food allergies, but better safe then sorry. Our Vizsla also has food allergies so he gets Wellness white fish and sweet potato. Gemma was put back on natrual instint Venison and sweet potato.

best of luck! let us know how it goes, as i'm nervous about blue buffalo now

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My neighbor, who has a boxer with food allergies, is having the same problem finding Avoderm. They switched to Taste of the Wild for her...not sure if the ingredients are similar in the 2 foods, but I know that it's working for this particular dog. It's a pain in the butt to have to experiment with new food when the other stuff was working for them!


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We did TOTW years ago, as Julian did great on it. Super shiny black coat. We had to get AvoDerm for Leo, since he didn't agree with TOTW. Fawns are so finicky! I hate that it's just disappeared... it was reasonably priced and for the coat we have kept on the fawntastic twosome, it was practically priceless
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I looked up Avoderm, it probably wasn't the right one, it had peas has the first ingredient?

Are you wanting to stick with fish based food? I'd have a look at this:

Nature's Variety Instinct Grain-Free Kibble: Salmon Meal Formula for Dogs | Nature's Variety

I love NV but my dogs don't do well on salmon so I feed the chicken.
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We did TOTW years ago, as Julian did great on it. Super shiny black coat. We had to get AvoDerm for Leo, since he didn't agree with TOTW. Fawns are so finicky! I hate that it's just disappeared... it was reasonably priced and for the coat we have kept on the fawntastic twosome, it was practically priceless
Poor Leo, I hope you find something that agrees with him and his finicky fawn coat. I know it's a pain to have to search for new food, hopefully the Blue works for them. I know my neighbor was upset when he went and all they had left was like a 5# bag of Avoderm and it hasn't been back in the store since...no clue what happened to it!


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I looked up Avoderm, it probably wasn't the right one, it had peas has the first ingredient?

Are you wanting to stick with fish based food? I'd have a look at this:

Nature's Variety Instinct Grain-Free Kibble: Salmon Meal Formula for Dogs | Nature's Variety

I love NV but my dogs don't do well on salmon so I feed the chicken.
Just a small warning on NV. I know a lot of people feed it without issue but when Mabel was on the salmon all the big changes and high/low volumes of many of the vitamins and etc...caused a lot of coat and bladder/kidney issues.

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I looked up Avoderm, it probably wasn't the right one, it had peas has the first ingredient?

Are you wanting to stick with fish based food? I'd have a look at this:

Nature's Variety Instinct Grain-Free Kibble: Salmon Meal Formula for Dogs | Nature's Variety

I love NV but my dogs don't do well on salmon so I feed the chicken.
There are (were) 2 lines of AvoDerm, the grain free is the "premium" version. Leo has such a nice coat for an adult fawn. I'm so aggravated!

He doesn't have a protein issue, but I prefer the fish based food for the Omegas. Even if he does get low tide breath!
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Poor Leo, I hope you find something that agrees with him and his finicky fawn coat. I know it's a pain to have to search for new food, hopefully the Blue works for them. I know my neighbor was upset when he went and all they had left was like a 5# bag of Avoderm and it hasn't been back in the store since...no clue what happened to it!


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It's SO annoying! It's like it just disappeared! I LOVED this food. W had tried EVERYTHING, and this was far and away what he did best on. 5 years later and I gotta pick a new food??? ARRRRGGGGGHHHH!
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What is the exact formula you use? That's pretty important considering they have multiple formulas that are very different.
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I know a lot of people don't like potato as a first ingredient but after changing Cato to Firstmate Pacific Ocean (and having him do amazingly) we recommended it to a friend with a Pit who has skin issues. I don't know if this would translate over for dilutes but I wanted to give you another option.
Good luck. Sorry about the huge PITA of having to change food.
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Can you get it from Mrchewy.com? That's how I kept my dogs in the right food even though they don't sell it on base.
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I agree with Whiskey to check out the online stores to see if they carry it. Unless Avoderm has discontinued it, you should be able to find it somewhere.


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A quick search on Amazon turned up 3 varieties of AvoDerm Grain Free in both 4lb and 22lb bags. Which variety did you feed?
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Have you tried one of the online companies like PetFlow? They ship orders $49 & up, Free and under $49 is like $4.95. Also, I think if you sign up for their auto-ship program, shipping is free. There are several out there that do something similar.

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Wag.com sells AvoDerm grain free formulas though I don't know if any of these are the one you're looking for: Wag.com | AvoDerm Natural

I order the girls' Acana from them and I've never had an order (from start to finish - submit, pay, ship, receive) take more than 24-hours. And they offer discounts fairly often, free shipping on orders over $49. Pretty good deal. I'm extremely happy with this site's service.

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Considering you said you like the fish for the added oil benefits (ithink?) I'm assuming you're using this formula
AvoDerm Natural Grain Free Salmon Meal & Potato Dry Dog Food at PETCO

This is another similar ingredient list, just more salmon content (which I think is better)
Pinnacle Grain Free Salmon & Potato Dog Food at PETCO

Having said that, if its that big of deal why not just order it? I've used almost every site and always received free, quick, shipping.
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I agree with others that you should look into petflow, petedge or chewy.com and just get the food delivered to your door. Then you don't have to track it down in another town, etc. I'd do this if my dog was thriving on a particular food.

(I use chewy.com but used petedge prior to this)
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I am curious as to why both Petsmart and Petco dropped Avoderm. I knew Petsmart was dropping them but didn't know Petco was until this thread.
I know its all contracts and paperwork agreements as to why probably, but I still wonder the reasons.

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Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm gonna give BB a try and if it doesn't work out we will just start ordering online. I would rather not have to do that, due to back orders and emergency situatuions (I'm in hurricane country and if I want to get food I don't want it shipped).

Also, heard GREAT things about Orijen from a fellow rescue person... Anyone tried this?
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Champion pet foods (Orijen & Acana) are the only kibble I recommend anymore.
Orijen is what I fed my Doberman

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All experiences will vary of course, but I've tried orijen with 4 of my dogs now and not one can tolerate it well. It's extremely rich and calorie dense, which meant my Lab who could eat anything was reduced to just over a cup a day in order to not gain weight (she was 65 pounds) so was constantly hungry.

Neither of my Dobes had solid poops on it and my Lab mix has outright diarrhea. This was with slow switching, multiple varieties tried and a good amount of time tried. I really wanted it to work, but it's just not a good fit I've found for my dogs.
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