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Best dry foods NOT containing mixed tocopherols, DHA, or BHA... annnndddd go!


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Costco Grain Free salmon & sweet potato.
Orijen.
Acana.

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Costco Grain Free salmon & sweet potato.
Orijen.
Acana.


Hmm. I was just at pet supplies plus, looked at ingredients and orijen and Acana both have mixed tocopherols. The only one that does which is what we have Jack on is Taste of the Wild, high prairie flavor.


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I second BFL....

I feed McCoy Acana Wild Prairie. In the US the name has changed to Meadowland (I think).
Acana and Orijen are manufactured by the same company and whether made in Canada or the US are sourced locally with fresh ingredients.

Acana is slightly less expensive than Orijen. Still, its a pretty spendy kibble. I am very happy with it as the main part of my pup's diet. (McCoy is 2)

Edit to say: Missed the part about no Tocopherals (duh). As someone who gives my boys 2000 mg of fish oil along with 400 IU vitamin E every day, it would never occur to me to eliminate that from my dogs' diet.

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I second BFL....

I feed McCoy Acana Wild Prairie. In the US the name has changed to Meadowland (I think).
Acana and Orijen are manufactured by the same company and whether made in Canada or the US are sourced locally with fresh ingredients.

Acana is slightly less expensive than Orijen. Still, its a pretty spendy kibble. I am very happy with it as the main part of my pup's diet. (McCoy is 2)

Edit to say: Missed the part about no Tocopherals (duh). As someone who gives my boys 2000 mg of fish oil along with 400 IU vitamin E every day, it would never occur to me to eliminate that from my dogs' diet.

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I was under the impression that TOTW, Orijen, and Acana were free of all that toxic crap. Did they just start adding it?


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Vitamin E is only toxic at high levels. If you want to feed a food completely free of preservatives (natural or otherwise), then raw and/or freeze-dried would be you best bet.


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From their website:https://acana.com/our-foods/regional...airie/?lang=in

It appears that they do add Vitamin E, zinc and copper. Those are the only supplements they add. And, I would not consider that "toxic crap".

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Edit: http://www.dogscatspets.org/vitamins...good-for-dogs/

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From their website:https://acana.com/our-foods/regional...airie/?lang=in

It appears that they do add Vitamin E, zinc and copper. Those are the only supplements they add. And, I would not consider that "toxic crap".

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Edit: http://www.dogscatspets.org/vitamins...good-for-dogs/


I see that, but it does say contains mixed tocopherols in the ingredient list. I've been informed that it can be toxic to animals. And it seems to be in almost every dry food. Just seeing if there's any dry food without.


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I see that, but it does say contains mixed tocopherols in the ingredient list. I've been informed that it can be toxic to animals. And it seems to be in almost every dry food. Just seeing if there's any dry food without.


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Most dog foods do nowadays. You may have some luck with freeze dried foods -- not sure if they are available where you are, but we have Sunday Pets and K9 Natural available here. My boy is on raw, but I use Ivory Coat and Ziwipeak as treats (or if I forget to defrost his meals). I have a preference for NZ-made commercial foods as they seem to have a higher standard of quality control compared to a lot of brands.
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Hi mr..

You might want to read this: Best Dog Food Reviews and Ratings of 2016 - Reviews.com

Hope this helps your dilemma.
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Earthborn holistic Primitive Coastal is a great price for a 5 star food and I don't see that stuff in it. Here's the ingredients:

Herring Meal, Potatoes, Peas, Canola Oil (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Pea Protein, Tapioca, Pea Fiber, Dried Egg Product, Sweet Potatoes, Salmon Meal, Whitefish Meal, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Blueberries, Cranberries, Apples, Carrots, Spinach, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, DL-Methionine, L-Lysine, Taurine, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Salt, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Zinc Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Carbonate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Rosemary Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Plantarum Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product.
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Mixed tocopherols is one of the things that the OP didn't want (although I can really only echo what Rosemary said earlier--that Vitamin E is only toxic in very high quantities).

The 4th item listed in the Earthborn kibble ingredient list is "canola oil (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols)". d alpha tocopherol is what you usually find as the only ingredient of Vitamin E--some of brands do list mixed tocopherols as a source for Vitamin E.

I think that the caution on Vitamin E in high dosages is the fact that it is an oil soluable Vitamin and like others (Vitamin A and D for instance ) is retained by the body and not excreted via urine if not needed as are the various water soluable Vitamins like B Vitamins and C. It's possible to overdose on any of the oil soluable Vitamins.
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You may want to read the book, "Dog Food Logic," by Linda Case. She is a canine nutritionist (master's degree in canine/feline nutrition) and the book is a very good read on feeding dogs, what their needs actually are, etc. I found it quite helpful - far more helpful than the many, many self-proclaimed "experts" on the internet Dog food and feeding dogs is a very hot topic and lots of people have a lot of opinions...it's quite a favorite thing for people to disagree about online, and I found reading this to be extremely helpful for me, personally.


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I second reading the book Meadow Cat mentioned. I was giving myself conniptions searching for the "perfect" food for my crew, and was on the verge of a nervous breakdown (only a slight exaggeration), but reading it helped calm me down, and gave me the information to make a rational decision on what to feed my crew.

I do need to have my GSD allergy tested, to see if she is allergic to any specific foods, or if it's all environmental. However, if she does wind up having a food allergy, I'll also be able to make an informed decision on what to feed her.


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Mixed tocopherols is one of the things that the OP didn't want (although I can really only echo what Rosemary said earlier--that Vitamin E is only toxic in very high quantities).

The 4th item listed in the Earthborn kibble ingredient list is "canola oil (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols)". d alpha tocopherol is what you usually find as the only ingredient of Vitamin E--some of brands do list mixed tocopherols as a source for Vitamin E.

I think that the caution on Vitamin E in high dosages is the fact that it is an oil soluable Vitamin and like others (Vitamin A and D for instance ) is retained by the body and not excreted via urine if not needed as are the various water soluable Vitamins like B Vitamins and C. It's possible to overdose on any of the oil soluable Vitamins.
Thanks. I was just looking for the actual word and didn't see it that's why I listed the ingredients.
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