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Boomers' cropped ears

Here is the first pic when we pick the little guy up.

The vet said the white nails are fine, he has seen it many times, and they will most likely turn black with age.
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Cute! But PLEASE take all of that stuff OFF OF YOUR PUPPY! The freshly cropped ears should in no way shape or form be covered, they should never be posted as long as the edges are healing! It scares me how often I see this, how many vets in this country need to be taught about the rules of basic healing? Please let the ears flop until the edges are totally healed.

Your boy is adorable can't wait to see him without all that junk all over him!
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Well this is my first time and the vet cam highly rec. from a very good breeder. I think I will follow his instructions.
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Cute! But PLEASE take all of that stuff OFF OF YOUR PUPPY! The freshly cropped ears should in no way shape or form be covered, they should never be posted as long as the edges are healing! It scares me how often I see this, how many vets in this country need to be taught about the rules of basic healing? Please let the ears flop until the edges are totally healed.

Your boy is adorable can't wait to see him without all that junk all over him!
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Posts about the ears being allowed to breathe and/or not being posted/wrapped until after the stitches come out...
Newly Cropped Ears
Getting new Puppy - Concerned about Freshly Cropped Ears...
Post ear crop question
http://www.dobermantalk.com/puppy-co...infection.html
Ear cropping aftercare
Cropped ears
Ear Cropping - Bad Experience
Ear crop!



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Since you don't want to listen the first time it was mentioned LET ME ECHO THIS TOO....
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Cute! But PLEASE take all of that stuff OFF OF YOUR PUPPY! The freshly cropped ears should in no way shape or form be covered, they should never be posted as long as the edges are healing!

Personally I don't think a reputable breeder would recommend a vet that wrapped the ears like this, but if you don't want to listen I hope your pup doesn't get an infection...

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Well I don't know what to do now. He just told me since I had a pack of five, that the other dogs could not lick his ears, could this be the reason they are wrapped?
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Its not that I don't want to listen, I just not sure what to do. I just picked him up from having it done.
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Personally I don't think a reputable breeder would recommend a vet that wrapped the ears like this, but if you don't want to listen I hope your pup doesn't get an infection...
and I hope I dont go home to a crazy red dober girl...two things that arent going to happen.

But seriously op, recommendations aren't gold medals, they don't mean that that vet really knows what they are doing.
No reputable vet would cover an open sore such as an ear crop, the area needs to breathe or it WILL get infected causing your puppy pain and unnecessary medical complications, and you a lot of stress and more money on antibiotics and after care. Please unwrap them and let them flop or tell your vet you want a cup on his head so the ears can breathe!

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they might try, they might not, covering it is a bad and lazy answer to that possible problem, if the other dogs won't leave him alone then separate him until his ears are healed/supervise closely and dont allow it to happen.

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they might try, they might not, covering it is a bad and lazy answer to that possible problem, if the other dogs won't leave him alone then separate him until his ears are healed/supervise closely and dont allow it to happen.

I second this

And still say you need to unwrap them...

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I understand your hesitation, OP.

Americans are sort of domesticated into thinking doctors speak gospel, and that sort of goes for veterinarians, too.

My own vet, who I love and who is generally a good fella and good general practice critter doc, is HORRID at cropping ears.

The finished result is unlovely and very unflattering to the dog, AND his idea of aftercare makes my teeth hurt.

He actually puts puppies back under, to repost, and uses half a medicine cabinet's worth of tape on fresh incisions and sutures.

I don't know I'd advise you to self-service here, esp. if you're not experienced, but see if someone can hook you up with a kind and willing good breeder who knows how to properly post, and see if they will help you. Offer 'em a small fee or gas money, or whatever, but it will be to your pup's benefit.

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Who is the breeder you reference here?

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Not to be a downer but most reputable breeders send the puppy home already cropped and healed. As for your vet, the proof will be in the pudding so to speak. You'll be able to tell how good a cropper he is once you see the ears without all the tape.
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I think it might be worth mentioning that cropping and posting are very different skills- someone may be outstanding at getting ears to stand perfectly and beautifully but should never be trusted with a scalpel. On the other hand, someone may be an immensely talented cropper, but not know a single thing about how to treat them once the surgery is over. Its possible your breeder recommended the cropping ability and not the posting ability.

But I may say, the members on this forum are pretty good at treating ears well
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I don't claim to know a thing about cropping but I am pretty sure pulling that tape off now, without knowing what you're doing, would rip out every single stitch with it....
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Who is the breeder you reference here?

I don't feel comfortable throwing her in the fire, I respect her and we will see what happens. I know nothing about this and I will not take anything off. The vet will see him on Monday. Thanks for all the advice. I did not expect what was to come, I was thinking everyone was going to say oh what a cutie, not your doing it all wrong. I know you guys are trying to help me, but I just can't make myself remove it. Wish me luck.
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U will need luck. When the ears start to smell bad, get the tape off quick and hope its not too late. He's very cute, that's why everyone is trying to help him.

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I don't feel comfortable throwing her in the fire, I respect her and we will see what happens. I know nothing about this and I will not take anything off. The vet will see him on Monday. Thanks for all the advice. I did not expect what was to come, I was thinking everyone was going to say oh what a cutie, not your doing it all wrong. I know you guys are trying to help me, but I just can't make myself remove it. Wish me luck.
Your pup is a cutie for sure, but we are concerned for a reason. My dog's first owner took him to a vet who cropped and wrapped the ears just like that. No shock...he got a massive infection and by the time I adopted him a month later, we still couldn't post his ears because they were so messed up. Fresh wounds need to breathe and all of that tape is a great environment for bacteria to grow out of control. Not trying to be mean or scare you....we just don't want to see a sweet puppy go through the pain of what that wrapping job will most likely lead to.

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DT has a wealth of information and advice. Newbies come here with questions and concerns but some really prefer the members to merely oooh and ahhh over their new dog. If that was all you wanted was the oooh and ahhh then you are missing so much. Members here will not sugar coat things but there is so much more available if you allow it.
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I don't feel comfortable throwing her in the fire, I respect her and we will see what happens. I know nothing about this and I will not take anything off. The vet will see him on Monday. Thanks for all the advice. I did not expect what was to come, I was thinking everyone was going to say oh what a cutie, not your doing it all wrong. I know you guys are trying to help me, but I just can't make myself remove it. Wish me luck.
I'm puzzled--why would naming her be "throwing her in the fire," if she's a good breeder?

I think at this point most folks are thinking this is probably Boomer's breeder. <shrug>

If she's really expert about Doberman ear crop and aftercare, she will NOT be happy with that tape job, and should be able to carefully redo those ears in a much better manner.

If she is not experienced with all this, then give folks your general location and I'm sure someone can point you to better resources for help with posting.

And no, please don't go mucking about with his ears since you aren't familiar with these procedures. I agree with you on that. But don't sit around and do nothing, either, 'til Monday. Get some good help, okay?

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DT has a wealth of information and advice. Newbies come here with questions and concerns but some really prefer the members to merely oooh and ahhh over their new dog. If that was all you wanted was the oooh and ahhh then you are missing so much. Members here will not sugar coat things but there is so much more available if you allow it.

Well I am not looking for the ooh and ahhh as it may seem, all I am saying is I just got the boy home, he is sleeping now and tomorrow i will take him back and tell him I would prefer the cup method. Its not all tape either the whole ear is covered in gauze and just a little tape at the bottom to hold the foam in the middle. Does gauze not breath, I can see his ear through the gauze.
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I'm puzzled--why would naming her be "throwing her in the fire," if she's a good breeder?

I think at this point most folks are thinking this is probably Boomer's breeder. <shrug>

If she's really expert about Doberman ear crop and aftercare, she will NOT be happy with that tape job, and should be able to carefully redo those ears in a much better manner.

If she is not experienced with all this, then give folks your general location and I'm sure someone can point you to better resources for help with posting.

And no, please don't go mucking about with his ears since you aren't familiar with these procedures. I agree with you on that. But don't sit around and do nothing, either, 'til Monday. Get some good help, okay?
Wow, I just don't want you guys emailing her asking her whats up. Now I want to be friends with everyone on this forum, I just joined it. So please lets just see what happens.
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I'm getting my pup in about a week and my breeder prefers the cup method. I believe it's because it allows the ears to start standing up and, more importantly, lets the fresh cuts get the air/light they need to heal
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