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Recent Crop - Normal Healing?

Hello Everyone!

We recently got a Doberman puppy (Sullivan), who was cropped this past Tuesday (6/13). This was done with the laser and was followed up with a treatment of "laser therapy", as it was indicated that this would help with healing and pain.

The vet had him in a cup but the ears were not exposed, though there were some "vents" in the bandaging. I was told to bring Sullivan back on Saturday to have the bandages and cup removed, which I did. So his ears are currently not posted in any way. (The right one is pretty much standing, but the left flopped after about 2 hours yesterday).

While we had another Doberman (Gilbert), who tragically passed away two weeks ago from bloat (only a week and a half after getting Sullivan ), it's been almost exactly 10 years since his ears were cropped and posted. It turns out that I hardly remember a darn thing about the whole process!

ANYWAY, I was hoping for an opinion as to whether it looks normal to some of you more experienced croppers out there. Sullivan isn't expressing a great deal of discomfort, but the bottom portion--the bell, I suppose it'd be called--just looks off to me? Is there supposed to be so much separation of that portion of the skin and the furred layer of skin? (I apologize as I'm probably explaining this horribly.)

Any suggestions or feedback is greatly appreciated!

Hopefully, I'll be able to get a picture or two posted here...

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I also cannot grab the pic. Don't worry..... If his ears were cropped 5 days ago, you have a while before you have to worry about posting.

Perhaps one of the moderators could help you post a photo

In any case. Welcome toDT and I am very sorry to here about the passing of your boy Gilbert.

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Is it showing in my second post by chance?

And thanks for the replies and condolences!
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Grabbed the pic.

Leave the ears alone. Don't pick the scabs or try to treat them with meds (such as neosporin). When the ears are totally healed, you can begin to post.

Sullivan's crop appears to be quite short, so you should have no issues getting them to stand.

Best to you and Sullivan. Sending thoughts out to Gilbert over there hanging out with several of my boys.

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Thanks, John!

The crop is a shorter than I would prefer but probably looks even shorter in that particular picture. Here he is face on for a bit more perspective (and because.. lookit that face!)

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Photobucket or Flickr would probably be a better photo hosting site to use.

The one picture I saw, it doesn't look like there are any sutures?


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Photobucket or Flickr would probably be a better photo hosting site to use.

The one picture I saw, it doesn't look like there are any sutures?
The ears were cropped using laser surgery, which bonds the skin automatically. This makes traditional stitches unnecessary.

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The ears were cropped using laser surgery, which bonds the skin automatically. This makes traditional stitches unnecessary.

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Still looked like it could have used some, especially towards the bottom, IMO.

I like the length, though.


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The first picture finally posted for me and I looked and said "Oh, no sutures, must be a laser crop.

Meadowlark--don't read this if you don't want honesty.

About laser crops. They don't heal faster. They don't cause less pain. Ears heal to scab free (ready for posting) in roughly 3 weeks. Sutures are usually removed at 7 to 14 days (ear flap in 7 days and base in 14 day)-roughly--it varies from puppy to puppy and depends of ear leather thickness etc.

The problem with laser crops is that the vets that do laser crops should also crop the base in a conventional way (often combination of surgical scissors and/or scalple) And the base is then sutured because there was a small v-shaped section removed and that doesn't close (and they should be cropped this way for the most attractive crop on a Doberman) unless it's sutured. The base is all heavy cartilage and just bonding the skin if that v-wedge was removed still leaves the bottom of the base hanging open and covered with skin only.

So as a couple of other people have noticed--the crop is pretty short and laser crops need to be posted just like any crop.

As 4 x 4 John said leave the scabs alone, don't put any thing on them. Doesn't make any difference whether the ears are up or flopped at this point--posting after they are fully healed will still be successful. The ear that is presently up may, by the time you can post them, be laying across the top of his head. Often happens (it's caused by a pocket) and posting will take care of things like that too.

There are good instructions for posting in the stickies under cropping and posting and more on the DPCA site and you can always ask for help here.

He's very cute and he won't care if his ears are pretty short.
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This is what 'bug is talking about with the base of the ear being trimmed with a wedge removed then sutured



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