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19 weeks old and ears are almost touching at times :(

Our puppy, Kyah, is 19 weeks old. She had her ears cropped at 10 weeks and we have been posting since. We used a bridge around 13 weeks for a week or so because they were tipping out. It wasn't tight but it seems now they get so close at times that they almost touch. We have been using backer rod method and added bumpers at approximately 15 weeks. To my frustration they are still tipping in. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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I've been stalking this page for weeks. That is the exact thread we used when we started using bumpers. That is the method we are still using. Unfortunately, the issue hasn't been corrected.
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Can you post a photo of your ear taping job?
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Here is our posting with bumpers. We are using 5/8 backer rod.
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Hi Nameless.

Yes, a green said .... ears tipping in, especially at this early stage implies pockets.

Your latest pic looks great. The "10-2 is pretty much spot on IMO. Next time you post, I would lose about half of the tape and see if a looser taping still works. If it doesn't, you can always go back to what you are doing.

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I guess I could add...play around with your dogís un-posted ears. With your thumb, press on inner part of her ear where it meets the top of her head. When you find the magic spot where your thumbís pressure makes her ears stand properly, that is the area that should be pushed out with bumpers. Let the bumper act as your thumb does by pushing out the problem area to straighten her ear up or let it sit in the 10 and 2 position.

Bumpers go in more or less the same area in a dogís ears--but all are a little different from others.

It is possible the weight of the tape is accentuating the tip inward--try taping only at the bottom and the tip of her ears--add an extra band of tape in the middle if you need to.
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Photo does look like a nice posting technique.
- we had the same problem, in our case, the bridge tape, was used too long / and ear tips touched

Relaxed ears posted at 10 & 2:00 position, is most ideal / will allow ears to rotate & strengthen.
- your problem, should just correct itself
We had to post a few extra months, now our girl has perfectly straight ears...even at high alert.

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We had the pocket problem too. We used bumpers for a few weeks and went to the smallest sized backer rod. Jacks canals are small and he has barely any bell so the big backer rods would pop out, worsening the pockets. Even posting with bumpers he had slight pockets. And when he was done with posting, there was a very minimal lean, which somehow awesomely straightened themselves out! Now his ears look fantastic!


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Take a good look at the ears when they are NOT posted--is it one or both ears that tip in? Looking at the picture of the ears when posted it looks like the left ear is not taped at the very base but a little above--if the pocket is at the base and you are taping from the very base and not getting the bumper in at the very base you may have one ear that has a pocket that accounts for the untaped ears when at attention to nearly touch.

And the other thing that sometimes happens is that if that's a pretty long crop (and it looks like it is) sometimes it is the upper part of the ear which is leaning in a bit--I'd like to see what the ears look like unposted.

Except for the small gap between the bottom of the tape and the top of the head on that one ear the posting technique looks good.
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Well, when we got up this morning she had some how gotten the post out of her right ear completely. I will try to get a good picture of them unposted to post.
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For what itís worth, but I think you know this already--a post popping out of the ear can definitely cause a pocket-->tips touching.

The angles you have her ears set at when they are posting looks good--hope you figure out the problem soon. If you want to say where you are, it is possible there is someone close by who can do a little hands-on posting with you.
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We are located in central Maine..
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You can check out this thread too

EAR POSTING. If you can or will help new owners with ears please post here.

It’s a bit old and out of date--but you might find someone in your area who could at least refer you to someone else if they can no longer help personally.

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I can't seem to get a good picture of her ears when not taped. Last night I tried posting with less tape. This morning the posts were still taped to the ear but the inner part had popped outside the ear. After untaping we went for a walk and they were touching. Should I may be be using smaller rods to get deeper?
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I think a big part of the problem you are having is the ears were not cropped properly. It's important that the very base of the ear and the cut edge are sutured together at the cheek, creating a tidy pocket for the post to sit in. Without that you will have problems with the post popping out or being too loose.



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Perhaps utilizing the zip tie method for posting would be a better alternative for this particular crop?


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Hereís a thread about the zip tie method from DT

Zip tie posting methoc

There is a link to a how-to video on post #3.
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