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military or short ear crop Doberman

Anyone have any photos of their doberman(s) with the short or military crop? My puppy is scheduled to have her crop done in a month and I want to decide which crop I want, which is between the long, medium and short but the internet hardly has any angles showing a short or military crop. Your photos is appreciated. thanks very much
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I think the best crop for newbies to handle with a pet puppy is the medium crop. in my opinion the military crop makes a Dobies head too coarse looking. It detracts from our breeds Beautiful head piece!
Sorry I do not have any pictures to share with you, but if you go through pictures in the members gallery you will see lots of different crops.

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I agree with the medium crop. Keep in mind that there are very few vets who do a decent crop for a Dobe. I sure would check around.

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The "military" or short crop IMHO is a travesty on a dobe. I think a medium crop you will be quite happy with....
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Hope this helps :

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Go to the link, then look on the left for the "Doberman Ear Crops."
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Go medium... you'll like it better. Military is just too short IMHO. I totally agree with clipclop.


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thanks for the advice, i will go medium. IMHO, the long crop looks corny on some dogs, depending on how its done. dont wanna run into this problem
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Here is a diagram that i always use when i have a crop done. Hope this helps...

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^^ that is a pit bull crop diagram though... :/


I agree with the others, the medium crop on Dobermans look nice. But make sure you find a vet who does Doberman crops - you definitely don't want a pit bull crop on your Doberman!!



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I have a military crop on my boy. It looks great, in my opinion. I also like a medium crop. I will say a show crop is a bit over the top for my taste.

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I love the wide bell, medium crop with the tear drop shape.


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Sica, great drawings {nice Pitty head too!}showing the different crops. Even though I have been involved with dobies for many years, i had never heard of a 'Military' crop. It was either natural, short, medium or show crop.

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Sica, great drawings {nice Pitty head too!}showing the different crops. Even though I have been involved with dobies for many years, i had never heard of a 'Military' crop. It was either natural, short, medium or show crop.
As far as I know, the term Military and short are identical.

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As far as I know, the term Military and short are identical.
That's how I understand it too. The phrase, as I understand it,was coined when the dobes used in the war had such a short crop.


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That's how I understand it too. The phrase, as I understand it,was coined when the dobes used in the war had such a short crop.
ya, the nazis in ww2 used these dogs with the short crop.
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Here are two examples of shorter crops. Neither one one is my preference, but crop #2 is a bit better than crop #1. Keep in mind that Crop #1 was done by a local vet with little to no artistic ability, and crop #2 was done by who-knows, since she was a rescue but she IS a sibling to the dog with crop #1.

CROP #1:





CROP#2:





By comparison, here are my dogs' crops. Both were done by Dr. Ann Platt - but crop #3 was a modified show crop on naturally very short ears, and crop #4 is a show crop. I much prefer these crops to #1 and #2, but these ears were done by an expert.

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Excuse my ignorance... but crop 2 dogs' hair is so tufty and visible on the sides of the ears. Do you have to trim this hair on their ears, or is this a problem due to the poor crop? I'm assuming it's the second answer, because I don't know that I've seen this before.... however I never thought about fur growth around the edges of the ears.

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I do think "show" crops are too long for many dogs, but in my opinion, the short crop looks like someone cut the dog's ears off with scissors. I'd go with the medium crop.
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The Military crop is much shorter than the short crops i have seen. I can understand the history of the crop and why it was done. but in this day and age our Dobes do not have to be warriors. They can just be our companions and look good while doing it. I still think the medium crop is the best choice in most instances. OR just leave them Au Natural!!!!!

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My girl Ziris has what I call a "shorter" crop. I personally prefer the longer crops, but I think hers is nice to be a short crop.





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I would suggest the medium, the military IMO is too harsh for a Dobe. Please find a vet who crops Dobes, many say that they can crop but when you come down to it and ask how many Dobes have you done, it is few and far between. Please find a vet who has done Dobes.
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I agree with what most of the people have said here...very few dobermans have a head good enough to pull off a short, military crop. In almost every situation, it diminishes their appearance rather than enhancing it.

I don't like extremely long show crops, but wouldn't be happy with what most people consider a medium crop either. The ideal to me is somewhere between medium and donkey length. <g>
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This is Mia. You could go a little shorter and be fine, but too short, and I agree, somehow detracts from their beauty, but that is just my opinion!
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Excuse my ignorance... but crop 2 dogs' hair is so tufty and visible on the sides of the ears. Do you have to trim this hair on their ears, or is this a problem due to the poor crop? I'm assuming it's the second answer, because I don't know that I've seen this before.... however I never thought about fur growth around the edges of the ears.
When it looks "tufty" like that, you've probably got a jagged edge. When the cut is straight, you'll still have hair along the edges (or near the edge) but it's not so readily apparent since it's all the same length in an uninterrupted line. This is clippered off on show dogs.
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Excuse my ignorance... but crop 2 dogs' hair is so tufty and visible on the sides of the ears. Do you have to trim this hair on their ears, or is this a problem due to the poor crop? I'm assuming it's the second answer, because I don't know that I've seen this before.... however I never thought about fur growth around the edges of the ears.
Some of both - Crop #1 has tufties too, but I had shaved the ear edges about an hour prior to that photo.

Dog #2 doesn't have jagged edges, but she does seem to have scar tissue from the sutures - which makes the hair grow in tufty like that. If Dog #2 had let me shave her ears that day, she'd have nice clean edges too.

Dogs 3 and 4 always have their ears shaved, since they belong to me.

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