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Adult Doberman Needs a New Home

It is with great sadness, but I need to find a new home for one of my best friends. I have an adult male approx 3 years old in perfect health. His name is Felix. He is black and rust. His a bit tall at 31 inches at the withers. He weighs in around 85 lbs. And he is an absolute sweetheart. He is the best friend I have ever had. However, we can no longer keep him.

Felix needs a new home because he doesnt do well with children. In particular girls between the ages of 8 to 13. He has developed a dominance issue with kids. I must admit it is something that happened inadvertently when my wife was pregnant and we had just got a new dobe puppy. But, since I have a 9.5 month baby boy, which Felix loves to death, more and more kids will be coming around our house. And we dont feel it is fair to Felix to either keep him in a cage or to where a muzzle when kids are around. That just isnt fair.

So, we are trying to find him a good home. I am not charging anything for him. I just want him to find someone who will love him as much as I do. However, this person needs to be alpha too.

Felix is up to date on his medical records. He is in perfect health. He is crate trained and house broken. He has been trained for both on and off leash obdience. He is great with other dogs. He loves riding in the car. But of course he is very smart. He knows how to open doors, and help himself to water from the refrigerator He is actually very, very good with people. But he is a bit nervous around children. Hence why he has developed a bit of a dominance aggression towards children. So, I must insist that the new owners do not have any young children.

Here are a few pictures of him. If you know of anyone who is interested, please let me know. I am located in Nashville, TN. And I am willing to drive out of state if necessary. For any questions, please feel free to call me at 615.957.2637.

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So sorry you are in this situation.

Have you tried to contact his breeder? Maybe she or he can help.

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So sorry you are in this situation.

Have you tried to contact his breeder? Maybe she or he can help.
We have not tried that yet. I will give them a call. But, I am not betting on it since he has been fixed.
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How sad indeed for you and Felix. Wish I was closer. He looks like a lovely dog.

[QUOTE=Nathan;441075]It is with great sadness, but I need to find a new home for one of my best friends.
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We have not tried that yet. I will give them a call. But, I am not betting on it since he has been fixed.
Whether or not he's fixed shouldn't make one bit of difference. Any reputable breeder will want the dog back, or at least be a part in rehoming him.

I can't help but feel sorry for your pup. With some obedience classes and consistent training, it may be a workable situation.


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are you sure that this is your only option?

What about some training? seeing a behaviouralist?

You didn't say exactly what his issue IS. What does he do around children? could you give us specific examples?

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are you sure that this is your only option?

What about some training? seeing a behaviouralist?

You didn't say exactly what his issue IS. What does he do around children? could you give us specific examples?

I have talked with his K-9 trainer and a few other behaviouralists. What his the exact problem? He feels that he can correct children. By correct, I mean give a corrective bite. He broke skin on my niece. And he has shown signs of dominance aggression towards two other kids in the area. All three times they were either around our vehicle(s) or in our house.

Our trainers both said that they can work on this, but there is never a guaranty with a bite cases. Plus, not to mention, the cost is high, and I can simply not afford it right now. We will be having more and more kids around the house and I do not want to be put into a situation that I cannot handle. The last thing I want is for another incident to occur and then the county makes me put him down. That will be too tough for me to bare. Which is why I am looking for a new home that does not have children. Perhaps an older couple who has some land. We live in a smaller house, and crating him or muzzling him when we have friends over with their kids just isnt fair to him. Not to mention, I dont want any of the other parents and children to be scared. That doesnt help Felix at all either.

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What his the exact problem? He feels that he can correct children. By correct, I mean give a corrective bite.
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As I work for a rescue, I cannot STRESS ENOUGH how IMPORTANT it is for you to be upfront about what the actual issue is.

A dog that has nipped or bitten is a very different thing from a dog that " just doesn't like kids"

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Are you sure he isn't showing dominant behavior but instead fear aggression? Perhaps he is scared of children. Can you try instead of talking with a behaviorist get him in some classes or see a behaviorist get an eval then get some help? I know you wouldn't want to give up your best friend, and I'm sure you are feeling like your in a rock and a hard place. But if it was me, I would alteast try. If it is, in fact, fear aggression that is totally fixable with some training and a boost of confidence you may have a different dog that loves kids. Just my opinion.

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your information on my horse board. A lot of horse show people have Dobes & might be interested. Hope he finds a great home. If I didn't have a male I would drive to Tn. & take him. No kids here.
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If it was an actual bite, no rescue can/will place the dog due to liability. If you try to rehome the dog yourself, you really must be upfront about the dog's history.


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your information on my horse board. A lot of horse show people have Dobes & might be interested. Hope he finds a great home. If I didn't have a male I would drive to Tn. & take him. No kids here.
Thank you for the free "advertisement". Hopefully it will help.
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My first Dobe bit two of my brothers. One was wrestling with me & was a teenager & he bit him on the butt(didn't break the skin but left a big bruise) & the other when he(the dobe) was older & my baby brother(under 5 at the time) layed on him when he was sleeping. He caught him on the face & broke the skin. I kept him & he never had any other trouble. My Dobe now loves everyone but I still keep a close eye on any of my dogs because all dogs will bite if provoked or hurt enough.
I'm sure he'll find a great home.
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Did I read your post right, you had a new baby and added a puppy? Is this when you noticed the change in your dog? I have 4 kids and would not keep a dog that bit, that being said if your dog has gone thru these changes and then started with his behaviors, I would at least try to correct them before rehoming him. I would however keep him away from the children, at least until he is under control.

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Did I read your post right, you had a new baby and added a puppy? Is this when you noticed the change in your dog? I have 4 kids and would not keep a dog that bit, that being said if your dog has gone thru these changes and then started with his behaviors, I would at least try to correct them before rehoming him. I would however keep him away from the children, at least until he is under control.

Good luck with whatever you choose. Make sure you are upright and honest with potential adoptors!
We first had Felix for two years. Then we got Piper, and about two months after that we found out my wife was pregnant. The changes occurred while my wife was pregnant, we think. We allow him to be next to our 9 month old boy. However, he must be laying down and submissive. I am not going to make him more uneasy by isolating him from my son. He actually loves my little boy. however, he is a bit afraid of young girls.

Trying to correct this is not as easy as one thinks. I just cant pick up a girl off the street and ask her to volunteer. I have several animal behavioralists in my area, but they are very expensive and I cant afford it right now.

I appreciate everyone's concern, but rehoming him is the best option for our family. I dont like doing it, but I have to do what needs to be done.

Also, to everybody else reading this. I have given and will continue to give full disclosure on Felix's behavioral issue. I have not attempted to hide anything, and I really dont need anybody else telling me to do so. For all those who have specifically inquired about it, they are getting all of the information. I didnt specifically say that he bit in the original post, because I dont need to hear from various people saying that I shouldnt rehome a dog that has broken skin. I have heard that time and time again. They simply want me to put the dog down. Which is just bollocks...so.

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My first Dobe bit two of my brothers. One was wrestling with me & was a teenager & he bit him on the butt(didn't break the skin but left a big bruise) & the other when he(the dobe) was older & my baby brother(under 5 at the time) layed on him when he was sleeping. He caught him on the face & broke the skin. I kept him & he never had any other trouble. My Dobe now loves everyone but I still keep a close eye on any of my dogs because all dogs will bite if provoked or hurt enough.
I'm sure he'll find a great home.

I understand and agree all dogs will bite if provoked, scared, or hurt enough. Basically what I am looking for is someone just like you who would take in Felix.

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check with Dobe rescue too. Depending on the situation they may not take the dog but they might have the perfect home for him. My boss does sheltie rescue & they take biters & rehome them all the time.
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I have talked with his K-9 trainer and a few other behaviouralists. What his the exact problem? He feels that he can correct children. By correct, I mean give a corrective bite. He broke skin on my niece. And he has shown signs of dominance aggression towards two other kids in the area. All three times they were either around our vehicle(s) or in our house.

Our trainers both said that they can work on this, but there is never a guaranty with a bite cases. Plus, not to mention, the cost is high, and I can simply not afford it right now. We will be having more and more kids around the house and I do not want to be put into a situation that I cannot handle. The last thing I want is for another incident to occur and then the county makes me put him down. That will be too tough for me to bare. Which is why I am looking for a new home that does not have children. Perhaps an older couple who has some land. We live in a smaller house, and crating him or muzzling him when we have friends over with their kids just isnt fair to him. Not to mention, I dont want any of the other parents and children to be scared. That doesnt help Felix at all either.

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When my daughter was a youngster, she had lots of little girl friends at the house. At the time I had two dobes, which were great with my daughter, but I never gave them a chance to get to close to the other children.
I just thought it best to do that as some children can be nasty to dogs when you are not looking. I would never put my dogs in that situation.
I just kept them in my bedroom with a locked gate and that was that.
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My wife is in complete agreement. It was actually her who suggested this idea first. She feels it is the best solution for both us and Felix.
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How does he do with other (large) dogs? All my kids have paws, but my youngest (3 years) simply loves to run as fast as he can in my fenced in yard. He loves to have a running buddy but none of the others can keep up.
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How does he do with other (large) dogs? All my kids have paws, but my youngest (3 years) simply loves to run as fast as he can in my fenced in yard. He loves to have a running buddy but none of the others can keep up.
We have never had any problems with him an other dogs. He loves to chase and be chased by other dogs. His biggest problem with running with dogs is that he is too fast for them in the straight line He has such a long stride that he can pretty much run down most dogs. Now running in circles is a different story. Our female dobe is smaller in size and he cant keep up "in the corners". But, he knows how to cut her off and tackle her. It is quite funny to watch.

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