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Would you adopt a dobe with a tail and uncut ears?

I adopted my dobie. He is docked but uncropped. There are lots of dobies to rescue that are docked and cropped. There are also lots of bad dock/crop jobs. I'm so glad they didn't do my dogs ears BC they did his tail wrong and he has scar tissue on the end. I have to watch this and put coconut/vitamin e oil on it BC it cracks and bleeds. I'm so glad whoever did that didn't touch his ears! I love the look of both cropped and uncropped. However, I do get stopped by many people saying they love his natural ears.


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I am not going to echo what everyone else is explaining regarding this subject.

However, has anyone seen a cropped, undocked doberman?

Also, I would see what the rescue thinks about cosmetic surgeries such as cropping ears. Many will have you sign a contract for adoption (or the like) stating that you agree to adopt under certain restrictions, which probably involve in writing, unnecessary cosmetic surgeries.


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There was a thread quite a while back about one. It had either a video and/or pictures Don't remember which, at the moment. It was a strange look for a Dobe.


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I am not going to echo what everyone else is explaining regarding this subject.

However, has anyone seen a cropped, undocked doberman?

Also, I would see what the rescue thinks about cosmetic surgeries such as cropping ears. Many will have you sign a contract for adoption (or the like) stating that you agree to adopt under certain restrictions, which probably involve in writing, unnecessary cosmetic surgeries.


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I believe a member posted on here before, Beacuerons are basically what it looks like just without all the fluffy fur

From google images

This one is a mixed breed....


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Beauceron


I think the Beauceron pulls it off better with all their hair, it looks more natural like a shepherd...just imo

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IDK, but I think google images might be wrong on this one. It really looks more like a Standard Manchester Terrier than a Dobe.


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I think the Beauceron pulls it off better with all their hair, it looks more natural like a shepherd...just imo
I love Beaucerons! I almost bought one prior to Rou's arrival. Who can pass up a doberman???
One day I will own one... or perhaps the lucky chance will come to adopt/rescue one!

But I agree that they do pull it off better.
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IDK, but I think google images might be wrong on this one. It really looks more like a Standard Manchester Terrier than a Dobe.
This is possible and more than likely highly probable, but it does convey the general concept

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I love Beaucerons! I almost bought one prior to Rou's arrival. Who can pass up a doberman???
One day I will own one... or perhaps the lucky chance will come to adopt/rescue one!

But I agree that they do pull it off better.
My aunt's SO has one as a service dog...I admire the breed but just didn't feel the connection like with dobes...little to much hair too but I mean if one ended up on my door step....

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All natural is my favourite! But for rescue I would take any kind of dobe who's personality I liked and who fit in with my gang. I like them whatever colour/ears/tail combo

Here's some pics of my all natural Rupert (not a rescue)









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When I saw Jordan's picture I was immediately in love. My husband was a little hesitant at first but that went away the second he met him. It took a few days to be completely used to the tail and now I just can't imagine him without it. As a matter of fact, have fought tooth and nail to keep it since he has major happy tail. I still think c/d dobes are stunning but I'm not missing anything with my all natural boy. He's still all doberman in every way. And, yes very clingy!! He's just not happy unless he's right up next to one of his humans.
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Just wanted to add, I have just rescued a hunting dog, not a Dobe, but a Pointer cross Lab, she has her tail and boy was it so nice to hear it thump, thump, thump on the floor this morning when I went in to release her from her crate.
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If you are getting a dobe from a rescue, then get one that is c/d. It would be very painful to do the tail at this age. I had 3 with tails and ears. 1 with a dock and natural ears, he was a stunning red boy. Lexi is c/d, but only one of her ears stands. I adopted her a 4 yrs. It will stand if she's excited or barky. I think it goes with her personality. I don't think I would attempt taking care of a pups ears, I'd be afraid I'd end up with Lexi ears. Natural ears are so soft. I love Dobermans, they are not like other dogs, not at all. I rescue only, my choice, there are just too many that need homes. Don't get me wrong, I see nothing in purchasing a dobe, as long as it is with a REAL breeder. I can understand the rescue not cropping or docking as the expense and not every vet can decent crop. I don't know what happened with Lexi's ears, but I think she is a beauty. I guess that's all that matters. Here is the little princess with her crappy crop. Also, she is drawf size and she has a long white stripe down her chest. She is the perfect example of a BYB. She could be the poster girl for them. But, she has a great personality, little shy at 1st. She is actually very funny.

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For me, I don't care about ears one way or the other but Tails and dew claws are a must for me. I have seen bad injuries due too dew claws getting caught on things so thats why they are a must for me. Tails on dobes just don't look right to me! But having said that, I think it comes down to the pup itself. Who cares natural or not, are you in love with the pup? JMHO.
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I would adopt an all natural Doberman. While I love cropped and docked and will always choose that first, a rescue is a different story. If I were to rescue it would be the dog with the right temperament/personality for me.



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Rubert is the best example of a natural Dobe.
Absolutly gorgeous, and a great boy.

Over the years, we have purchased 2 expensive well bred Dobes, both fully customised.
Our 3rd Dobe was adopted, and he has natural ears.
When looking for this dog, I didn't care whether ears were done, tails were done, or even their color. Disposition, health, and personality were the keys.

Our current Dobe Zachary has natural ears and everyone comments on how much they love them.
The ears suit his goofy playful personality.
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Please do NOT dock the tail of a 10 week old pup!!!

If you want a docked pup, then get the approval of the rescue to have it done soon after birth or keep looking for another puppy that's already docked.

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Rupert is absolutely stunning. If I ever acquire an all-natural dobe, I want it to look just like him. My boy was c/d, but he's a rescue, and prior to adopting him I was looking for breeders that would let me have a 100% natural dog but still have the health tests and titles I was looking for.


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Now if I could have an all natural just like Rupert, I would.
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both of my dobies have had a tail and floppy ears and i wouldn't have it any other way. they are beautiful both ways, but, i prefer au natural
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Here are some pictures I took of a 6 month old practically natural (besides the SUPER long dock) red boy available for adoption with the rescue I volunteer with.

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I have Boris who has natural ears but a docked tail
and my three rescue girls are all natural

When you see how they use their tails for running, jumping ect.....For alerting you if someone is around (Darcy will stick her tail straight and the tip points in the direction towards where she perceives danger to be coming from ) makes me feel sorry for Boris because I miss so much of his natural body language.

If the girls don't like a particular dog or person their tails also stand up straight and I can tell much quicker that I need to interact to prevent a stand off.. especially if they have coats on and I can't see their hackles go up, their tails tell me everything..

When they are happy they are so much more expressive with their waggy tails than poor Boris with his wiggly stump. (Which is still so cute)

They also speak with their ears, they change depending on their mood, Willow does the turning inside out thing to a tee if she has been naughty.

Having Dobes for the last 27 years I now much prefer the natural look
and yes they are still Dobes in every way..
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Thank you everyone for your compliments about Rupert I love him to bits. You guys just wait until I introduce you to his new little sitter, you're going to love her she is STUNNING!

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You guys just wait until I introduce you to his new little sitter, you're going to love her she is STUNNING!
Amelia, you're such a tease. How long do we have to wait? Is she from the same breeder as Rupert?




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Amelia, you're such a tease. How long do we have to wait? Is she from the same breeder as Rupert?
Hehe! Well I don't want to hijack the thread!! But I pick her up on Sunday, I'll try and get some pictures up soon. She is from the breeder of Rupert's sire



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Would I purposely seek out and purchase a drop eared and long tailed Doberman? No.

Would I adopt one from rescue if that's just how the cookie crumbled? Heck yes.
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