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Do Dobes ever get over there clingyness and get a bit more independent?

I have a very sweet rescue Dobe that within 20 minutes of picking her up from the shelter she glued herself to my hip and has not left since! I do like this about her but I would live for her to have a bit more confidence in herself. I would like to see her go play out in the yard without me there and not be afraid to wander off for a nap once in a while. Do you think this confidence will come with time or is there some specialized training I can try? The only time she is away from me is at night because she is too restless and whiny and tries to sleep on top of me, and I must be able to function at my day job in order to pay for the massive amount of expensive food she inhales!

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Dobes are velcro dogs for a reason they stayed glue to the hip for life. I think theres some settling down for this girl possibly after a few weeks once shes settled shell start to do her own thing.


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I agree, you won't really know what you have for a month or more
In the meantime, don't do a lot of babying, talking to, and petting her when she clings.

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I'm sure with some time she'll start to gain some confidence, she hasn't been with you long. My current rescue Trooper took ages to settle in compared to the other three. He'd follow us everywhere all the time. He's not as bad now, I can go to the bathroom by myself now but he still wants to be with you & poke his nose into whatever you're doing. He is a dobe after all & it's their mission in life to glue themselves to you. You may as well admit defeat & enjoy it.




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I found my Dobes were either glued to me,often indoors,I think that was to allow you to trip over them and for them to know exactly where I was at all times,just I case I tried to sneak out or eat anything on my own. Outside is different, large circles are required,very fast and returning at the speed of light (one tip,when they return,yes they will, DO Not MOVE,they will skim you and if you move they will flatten you!) The only time you see them in the woods is from a distance,chasing a squirrel or from the floor where you have landed,after making the mistake,of MOVING,to avoid them.
I cannot wait for my pup,walking with any other breed is so predictable.
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Our last dobe would not stay outside by herself for more than a few minutes.
She was content laying on the leather couch and could keep an eye on both Mom and Dad watching TV or on the computer.
At night and in the master bed, she always rested her back on Dad's legs, after a while I couldn't sleep without her touching me some.
- her confidence was helped with tug of war toy play & sending her off to fetch a ball or stuff gave us a momentary break

We have a puppy now, and following everyone into the bathroom is quite normal and part of our baby girls routine.
She will rest on a blanket in the hallway if someone is in the shower...kind of nice really, the breed needs to keep tabs on their human family.
- I never wanted to lessen this, "their need, to always need us"

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just remember - Look before you back up, especially if you have been standing in the same spot for a bit, your dobe will be laying behind you.
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She may just be unsure of everything still, but in time she may feel better.

As far as the "velcro dog" thing... very normal... and I quite like it
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Toby is 2 years old.

I have yet to be allowed to...

Go to the toilet without him accompanying me.

Have a shower without his head peering through the gap in the curtains.

Go outside, into the kitchen, go to the car, start the tractor, work on the land without him being with me.

On occasion he will take himself off into my bedroom, when I am in the sitting room. (my house is on one level and he can see all the doors to all the rooms from where he lays). At half hourly intervals (literally) he comes to find me, check all is well, that I am not trying to sneak out, do something without him being with me at which point he either stays real close or he goes back to have a snooze on my bed whilst keeping an ear on the goings on and an eye on the doors.

When we walk, if another dog is with us he will move away from my side and venture around 25 foot in front, behind, to the side of me, however, if we are alone, he rarely moves more than 10 foot away.

Now my boy isn't particularly a cuddle bug, he doesnt always feel the need to be touching me, neither does he want bothering that much when he is asleep on the sofa or to be touched when he is just hanging out. However, that doesnt mean I have the right to do my own thing, not unless he has sanctioned it and more importantly is there to supervise it.

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We used to have a very large backyard which took a long time to cut...when my my wife would cut our male dobe at the time would follow till the cut area would shrink to his comfort level and stood with a watchful eye. These dogs when in your presence will go to no bounds to get comfortable. Good or bad when faced with the separation of their most prized "one" they cannot be satisfied! Dobes are a commitment to say the least.
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Outside is different, large circles are required,very fast and returning at the speed of light (one tip,when they return,yes they will, DO Not MOVE,they will skim you and if you move they will flatten you!) The only time you see them in the woods is from a distance,chasing a squirrel or from the floor where you have landed,after making the mistake,of MOVING,to avoid them.
I feel your pain......literally.
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It's true about the bathroom breaks.

Just put her in the yard and don't go out with her, I'm sure she will eventually do her own thing. Hopefully without consistant barking.

If you want her to be a little less clingy inside just start ignoring them randomly when they push for attention and get her used to being alone. I started leaving Lexi alone for short amounts of time and then gradually increased the time. She's fine now while I'm at work. She also knows that if I ignore her initial pushyness that there's no sense trying again for a bit. Which works for me.

However, good luck getting rid of the dobershadow that will be pinned to you as you walk around the house or prepare meals as they anxiously await the possibility of dropped food.

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Judah has had her nose stuck up everything I do since I got her as a pup. She is happiest laying with her head in my lap chewing on her bone. Her sister, Jacklyn owned by my younger sister, is the same. Your girl my gain a little independence when she feels more secure but she will more than likely remain stuck to you no matter what. That is what I like most about the breed.
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As we speak my girl is sleeping on my lap. If I get up she will follow me , if I go to the bathroom she will come with me. It's been like this since the first day we got her. This is my first dog and I absolutely adore her.


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This thread does kind of scare me somewhat. I can handle the wanting to be in the same room as you velcro-ness, another breed we're planning on getting is that way, but the always has to be touching you velcro-ness might be too much for me. I don't know though, it's something I really need to think about before the time comes.
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Mine is find she just wants to know where I am at all the time. She like to lay so she can see the back yard and me. That is now my new recliner. She is not on me 24/7 but when I change rooms she is right behind me. I sometimes throw her off when I am home more. When things get back to normal she starts to whine for a while when I leave. After a few days everything is back to normal.
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Judah has had her nose stuck up everything I do since I got her as a pup. She is happiest laying with her head in my lap chewing on her bone. Her sister, Jacklyn owned by my younger sister, is the same. Your girl my gain a little independence when she feels more secure but she will more than likely remain stuck to you no matter what. That is what I like most about the breed.
Haha, yeah, I was bending over looking for something in the bottom of the fridge a bit back and Parker stuck his head under mine and was helping me look...my inner alarm failed to go off...when he suddenly jerked his head up and whacked me on my eyebrow. OWW OW OWWEEE...he felt so bad for maiming me...and I was so aggravated at him for squeeezzziing in there. He felt so badly, tho, I couldn't stay mad but for a couple of seconds.

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This thread does kind of scare me somewhat. I can handle the wanting to be in the same room as you velcro-ness, another breed we're planning on getting is that way, but the always has to be touching you velcro-ness might be too much for me. I don't know though, it's something I really need to think about before the time comes.
You don't have to have them under you armpit all the time. You can teach them to "go lay down" or to "go on". If I am in the kitchen and he gets to following me from stove to fridge to stove, etc, I will tell him "out" and he will go to the edge of the kitchen and watch me from there...just in case a succubus or something tries to crash thru the window and take me somewhere he can't see me!!!

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This thread does kind of scare me somewhat. I can handle the wanting to be in the same room as you velcro-ness, another breed we're planning on getting is that way, but the always has to be touching you velcro-ness might be too much for me. I don't know though, it's something I really need to think about before the time comes.
I have found as long as Toby knows where I am within the house. That I am not going to disappear down a wormhole or the like he is fine with watching me from the other side of the room or indeed from down the corridor whilst laid out on my bed. He sleeps only on my side during this time, not dads. When we are having a cuddle in the morning it is my side he gets up on, my side he lays on, with his head on some part of my body so I cannot sneak out of bed whilst he is fast asleep. But if I tell him to give me space, he will.

Toilet breaks are a must accompany situation, (I might fall down the loo and disappear). Besides, it offers a Dobe some serious butt scratching time whilst you are captive to their whims and your ablutions. LOL!

If I am in the kitchen he will sit at the door and watch me, (I might need him to pick something up I've dropped, lol!).
If I go outside, then I must have a chaperone and nothing I can say will stop it from happening. Even when it is raining (and we all know Dobes melt in the rain) he will do his duty and come out with me, then look pathetically in my direction until we go back inside.

The one thing I have noticed about my Dobe and it is probably pretty usual is,..

When there is danger my boy will come and sit so close to me he is touching me, whereas my Terrier he will bugger off in the opposite direction and not be seen for dust.

I personally like the Velcro attribute. Of course for some it may be too much, but for me, it has definitely made them that bit more special above the other breeds I have owned.
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if you aren't prepared to have a large furkid be a nearly constant presence in your world, and share your most personal and mundane activities with, then a Doberman isn't the right dog for you! they can't bear the thought of being apart - they are interested in every aspect of everything you do - laundry, food prep, bathing, planting tulips, feeding the birds, watching the news... but a rescue is a special case - often, rescues are just so insecure, so unsure of what's expected of them and whether they are now "home" and can relax and trust - they will be watching you constantly for signs of reassurance - or rejection. be patient, kind, and be sure to also do some training, so she knows she has some responsibilities and expectations - they like that - gives them confidence, especially if they get lots of praise. Thank you for rescuing!!


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Velcro-ness is normal, however many dobermans are actually just nervy and because of this, cling more. A very strong nerved dog is more likely to be independent and does not have to be by your side 24/7. It sounds like this is the case with your girl as well. She likely has nerve and environmental stress issues and many dogs like this feel secure being 'glued' to your leg. I would not just discount this as 'dobe velcro' traits and possibly get into a good motivational training program to increase her confidence.
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Mine folow me room to room, whine if I go in a room they cant get ito or leave without them. They will calm down once Im gone, howevr they are stuck to me as soon as I come home again!

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Ivan isn't clingy. I would say part of that might have to do with SAR training and other activities we do.

"Go xxx" has always been part of our training and I think the more time he's spent doing activities away from me and independently the more comfortable he's become with not having to be right beside me.

In the mornings I tell him to "Go to the bedroom" and I'll shut him in their while I'm hiding the treats he has to find while I'm at work.

I remember the first time we went lure coursing. He'd run so far and then come back to me. I'd send him out again and once again he'd go so far and then come back to me. The second time lure coursing he had no problems staying with the lure.

If I'm leaving a room and I know I'll be right back, I often times tell him to "stay." Usually I'll bring him back a bone or something to chew on, but only once he's committed to staying put.

ETA: That doesn't mean I don't frequently have help with daily chores, just that he's not obsessive about it.


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