Originally Posted by RottenVonSpotten View Post
Wow, where can you ride your bike for 20 miles and have your dog off leash? I'm jealous. I see people mountain biking with dogs off leash, but never for 20 miles. That might be excessive. Since the dog would be off leash, I assume you are going at a leisurely pace and the dog can stop as he/she pleases? I think 10 miles is more realistic for a Doberman. I would be worried about over exercising and creating a dog with endless energy that can't settle down.
Athens OH has great bike paths. Columbus also has several although not as long as the Athens one which is 19 miles one way. I lived in Athens, now live in Columbus but am thinking of moving back to Athens. I am 41 and retired so I have a lot of time on my hands.
depending on the age, conformation, training, condition and health of the dogs.............
one of my puppy owners used to bike from town to my place once in a while and it was 20k here and back.
or they would drive to the dirt road and bike here and back to their car..........6 1/2 k here and back.
his dogs were in awesome condition!
had a Rhodi for over 10 years....he got along great with the Dobes!
that is him in my sig picture............Kip Kieno's Copper Dan!
Thanks, and yes my Rhodesian is truly awesome. She loves other dogs, and enjoys people too.
Hi I too am retired army. I live in Columbus presently Thanks for the link.
Welcome! Keep in mind that if you get a puppy you won't be able to run the dog until its 18-24 months of age for proper growth and health of bones and joints. Dobes are a slow maturing breed.
Dobermans are a personal protection breed, don't be ashamed of it, just socialize, socialize, socialize and train them up right! Mine is a certified therapy dog and when I go out with him in public with his vest on its an excellent way to dispel myths and stereotypes and show the public what a well socialized, trained, and raised example of the breed is like.
Are you a male? Males tend to have a bigger problem with speutering their dogs(emotional attachment to the sex hormones and testicles and all that jazz). Pet quality puppies from good breeders will come with limited registration and a spay/neuter contract.
My Doberman is cropped and docked. I guarantee you he has not been traumatized from the pain or procedure. It happens when they are young. They don't miss their ears/tail just as they don't miss their balls or ovaries from the much more invasive spay or neuter.
Yes I am a man.
I do believe in getting my pets fixed, both female and males . I have been around working dogs my entire life. I grew up on a large sheep and cattle ranch(farm) in New Zealand where I used to work and train hearding dogs, Fox Terriers and Jack Russels. My brother had labs and the family also had a German Shepard and a setter All pet dogs as were fixed. I absolutely believe in socialization. I like the idea of getting the dogs certified as therapy dogs too. Actually I am meant to start classes to become a dog trainer later this year. Also will be doing an apprenticeship with an assistance dog organization. Really looking forward to the whole thing. I start volunteering at a local humane society next week.
Good remark about not being ashamed of the protection aspects of the breed. I remember many years ago when my fiancé and I had a pair of Rottweilers how many negative remarks and looks we received. Yet the dogs were well socialized and trained. Thankfully over time, at least in out neighborhood the dogs built up a great reputation. It would be my goal to do the same with a Doberman. I remember when I moved into the place I am currently living my landlord stated "no dangerous dog breeds." Such as I said "Dobermans" was the reply. I said. "So are Rhodesian Ridgebacks or Giant Schnauzers okay?" "Oh yes" said the landlord. I just rolled my eyes. Anyway I just bought some property and will be moving from here soon. Lots more room for the dogs and no ignorant landlords.
I think provided the dog is properly conditioned / trained and allowed to stop, re-hydrate, etc. as needed it shouldn't be a problem. In Schutzhund there is an AD title which is for a 12.5 mile endurance test (handlers may bike or jog next to the dog). There are a couple of breaks (I think around the 5 and 10 mile marks) where the judge allows evaluates the dogs and if they show lameness, exhaustion, etc. they are to be dismissed. Dogs can easily complete that with the proper conditioning, so I see no reason why they couldn't do 20, again with the proper training, conditioning, and consideration of and attention to the dog's needs.
As far as an all natural dog with ears and tail intact, in North America you might be able to find one in rescue (uncropped ears are common, undocked tails not as much), you could look for a working breeder (there are a few that will leave pups all natural), or you could import from a country where cropping / docking is illegal (much of Europe).
Thanks for the information. It is not a deal breaker necessarily if the tail is not cropped, just a preference. I would definitely take breaks to give the dogs a breather while biking. The 5 and 10 mile marks sound like a good idea. How do Doberman's handle the heat in your experience?