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Old 12-30-2012, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is my 1 yr dobie small?

This is Rocko he'll turn 1 on 01-08-13, he' healthy, energetic, and good with other people and animals. My only concern is that he's 26" tall and weighs 65 lbs. is this common? Feedback much appreciated!
He's on Natures Recipe For Large Breed Puppy.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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He looks fine boned so he will probably always be on the lighter side. Hard to see from the picture but if he isn't showing a lot of ribs he's fine. I'd get him on an adult food he doesn't need to be on puppy food anymore.

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Old 12-30-2012, 07:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The height and weight is fine, as long as the vet clarifies he's healthy, but he does need to be switches to an all stage life or adult food. Puppy food has more protein and can cause the joints and bones to grow faster and could cause problems later on. Pretty boy you got there!!


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No, he's fine. He'll probably put on a few more pounds as he matures, but you don't want him to be fat.

Fron the AKC/DPCA standard:
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Height at the withers: Dogs 26 to 28 inches, ideal about 27 inches; Bitches 24 to 26 inches, ideal about 25 inches. The height, measured vertically from the ground to the highest point of the withers, equalling the length measured horizontally from the forechest to the rear projection of the upper thigh. Length of head, neck and legs in proportion to length and depth of body"
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How big are his parents? If you know. Otherwise he could just be a late bloomer maybe. My boy will be 1 on feb 8 and he's 27" tall and around 75lbs I have I idea his history though so I don't know what to expect.


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As a suggestion, from your pic his nails look very long. How often do you trim them?

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Thanks for the comments! Im going to speak with my vet on what food might be best for him. He was neutered @ 4 months but I dont know if it stuns his growth or not.

We trim his nails every 3-4 wks, they grow super fast, but they were trimmed yesterday the pic was taken Friday
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Have you ever tried a dremel? I have to trim my guy's weekly. Nails grow like crazy!!!
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[quote=Christina93;1214338]The height and weight is fine, as long as the vet clarifies he's healthy, but he does need to be switches to an all stage life or adult food. Puppy food has more protein and can cause the joints and bones to grow faster and could cause problems later on. Pretty boy you got there!!


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What you say is true about regular puppy food, but not Large Breed PF. Most LBPF is formulated to feed till 2 yrs of age. LBPF is formulated for slow growth unlike regular PF that is made to promote rapid gowth. It is the rapid growth that does the damage to LB puppies.

OP, it is a rare veterinarian that understands what constitutes a nutrition
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Your pup will continue to fill out till 2 to 3 yrs ordinarily, tho he was neutered very young and that could have an effect.
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Not sure on my boys height but he is 70 pounds and is a small male in my opinion. He really beefed up and broadened this past year. Don't anticipate ur boy to be done growing until he's two . My boy was neutered at 7 months
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Thanks for the comments! Im going to speak with my vet on what food might be best for him. He was neutered @ 4 months but I dont know if it stuns his growth or not.

We trim his nails every 3-4 wks, they grow super fast, but they were trimmed yesterday the pic was taken Friday
Neutering young does the opposite of stunt growth. Early neutered dogs are taller and lankier because they no longer have testosterone to tell their growth plates to shut off. A secondary response shuts them down later than they would if he were in tact.
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Do you know his lineage? As far as I understand, dobes from America are intended to be smaller, and euro's are much larger. I think it is common for american lineage to be 60-70lbs. My girl tapped out at 68lbs herself, and she is 3/4ths american.
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SIZE AND WEIGHT :
Height at withers : Males : 68 – 72 cm.
Bitches : 63 – 68 cm.
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Weight : Males : about 40 – 45 kg.
Bitches : about 32 – 35 kg.

From a metric/English conversion website: For males- 72 centimeters is equal to 28.35 inches and 45 kilograms is equal to 99.21 pounds (avoirdupois); for females- 68 centimeters is equal to 26.77 inches and 35 kilograms is equal to 77.16 pounds (avoirdupois)



The AKC standard says that males are supposed to be 26-28 inches, and bitches 24-26 inches, but doesn't mention weight. I don't see a big difference between the two standards, as least as far as height is concerned.
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Height at withers : Males : 68 72 cm.
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Weight : Males : about 40 45 kg.
Bitches : about 32 35 kg.

From a metric/English conversion website: For males- 72 centimeters is equal to 28.35 inches and 45 kilograms is equal to 99.21 pounds (avoirdupois); for females- 68 centimeters is equal to 26.77 inches and 35 kilograms is equal to 77.16 pounds (avoirdupois)



The AKC standard says that males are supposed to be 26-28 inches, and bitches 24-26 inches, but doesn't mention weight. I don't see a big difference between the two standards, as least as far as height is concerned.
Thankyou for posting this. my boy is 3/4 Euro and I was wandering their standard compared to ours.
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Toby always looked small when I looked at the pics on this forum. I kept measuring him and weighing him and then realised one day. He is what he is and nothing I can say or do will change that.

At 2 years old he is still filling out, and I believe at 27 inches tall he is just right. He weighs around 80lb now, so for some he may be a little too chunky around the middle but he is healthy, runs around like a lunatic when we go for walks and generally wears me out long before he even looks slightly fatigued.

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He looks like a cutie I couldn't really comment on his body condition without better photos (ie, one from the side and one from above) but if the vets not worried and hes energetic I don't think I would be either. I think it's better to be on the slimmer side anyway. I think my boy was about 65-70lbs at one year, and his lines are quite slow maturing.
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definitely need a side and above photo, the pic you put up gives no perspective whatsoever, his head looks the same size as his whole body as it would in any pic from that angle.
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I think Nexus is about 26 inches tall and she weighed 72 lbs at her last vet visit, which for her is amazing. She is missing 20 inches of intestine and the vet never figured she would hit 70 so we are happy.
the weight and height of your boy sounds fine, and he will continue to fill out and gain for at least another year.
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