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The right muzzle

Hi all im having trouble locating the right muzzle for my boy. Iv seen a few on ebay but the price is s little high. I need 1 that he won't be able to pull off as hes a little houdini.

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What kind have you been looking at?

Soft type?

Cage type?

Most muzzles I have seen (my boy wears a cage type but I also own a soft one which I sometimes use) come with a single strap behind the head. If the muzzle fits correctly / is fastened correctly then it shouldn't be so easy for your dog to get it off. Not saying it isn't possible but it shouldn't be that easy.

Are you leaving him with it on unattended or is he getting it off when he is running around?
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It would help to know what you are using it for. I find greyhound muzzles fit Dobermans pretty well - my female has one. I also have a leather basket muzzle.


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I love leerburg's javco. Adore it. It allows the dog to drink and pant, a huge plus. The only negative thing is you can't treat like the baskervilles.

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At the moment he has a leather german shepard one (burrowed from a friend) it fits but he dumps his head down and will use his front paws to pull it off. Hes only done it a hand ful of times, but where he is so unpredictable with other dogs i worry he will get it off and run off. Im not overly fussed what type just aslong as its secure and comfy for him. Xx ill try to get a pic of him with him current 1 on x

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Curious was wondering what is the muzzle for and how old is your boy never used a muzzle before so just wondering nosy old lady, of course you do not have to answer. I just do not know about muzzles sometimes i would think they might make a situation worse, Leerburg.com has some.
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He is very dog agressive when I take him out so I muzzle him 4 the saftey of other dogs and people. He will be 2 in april x
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At the moment he has a leather german shepard one (burrowed from a friend) it fits but he dumps his head down and will use his front paws to pull it off. Hes only done it a hand ful of times, but where he is so unpredictable with other dogs i worry he will get it off and run off. Im not overly fussed what type just aslong as its secure and comfy for him. Xx ill try to get a pic of him with him current 1 on x

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Did you desensitize / train your dog to wear the muzzle? Or just slap it on? When properly introduced, a dog should ignore the muzzle and not fuss with it.

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I introduced it to him around the house puttin it on and off. But hes always had a problem with his halti i use for him. 1 year on and he still has a fit now and again when hes out. I got it correctly measured so i no it fits ok x
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Something for you to think about.
If the dog is houdini either the muzzle isn't on right, its the wrong size, or he's just that damned good. I think what you should do is get a muzzle the dog can breathe and drink with. Then get crafty. You can attach a piece of cloth using a snap to the back of the muzzle.(At the back of the neck). Like these: http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/819/8...821819_587.jpg
Using a bolt snap, attach the other end of the cloth to the collar's D ring. Snug, but not tight, allows room for normal head movement, etc.

This is NOT replacement for proper muzzle training. This is to help you while in the process. I would also get a good trainer to help work through the issues. It can be done, with time and commitment.

Eta: THIS. http://www.leatherbrothers.com/muzzles/M178-S.htm

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I use a soft muzzle on Bella when we go out because she adores chewing my door frames and molding strips. Itis lightweight, but will not allow her to chew. She hates it, she knows its a requirement though when I leave and will allow me to put it on and not fuss with it, until I return home then she dips her head, paws at it and whines til I get it off. She cant pull it off herself, and rarely fusses with it once its on.

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Is your dog on lead when he's muzzled? He can still hurt other dogs when he's offlead with a muzzle on. Apologies if you said he is on a lead, but you said about him running after dogs?

Fordogtrainers.com has a good range of muzzles, I haven't bought a muzzle from them but have bought other bits and they've always been good.



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I use a soft muzzle on Bella when we go out
What I'm getting from this statement is that you muzzle your dog when you have to leave her alone in the house.
Is this safe? It soumds like a really bad idea to me.



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I use plastic basket muzzles which run about $10 each on my lawn eaters (it's not so much the grass I object to them eating but having had a real scare and a partial obstruction on the dog who yanked everything up by the roots and gulped it down, both dogs go out in the yard with muzzles now).

I buy them from Ryan's Pet Supply in Arizona. Pet Edge used to carry them but is now carrying a different brand that, in my opinion isn't as good. The muzzle I buy is marked "Made in Italy"--I see others advertized which say they are designed in Italy--they aren't the same. They are also marked for size. 7's fit the average bitch. 8's fit big bitches and small dogs and 9's fit bigger dogs.

I train them to leave the muzzle alone when on. With the muzzle they wear a flat collar which is very tightly fitted--I loop the behind the ear strap through that--it takes a lot of determination and no training for a dog get that muzzle off. Both of my dogs no longer need to have the muzzle on very tight and neither wears it with the additional collar any more.
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My dog has worn a muzzle since he was a puppy as it is a requirement for my sport. He still screws around with it for the first little while unless we are on the trial field.

I have both plastic basket muzzle and metal basket muzzle. I find with the plastic ones that the closure is very flimsy and my dog can easily pull the clasp apart. As well to be tight enough for him not to pull off it has to be jammed on his face. I also take the slack from the neckstrap and tie it in a knot around the closure and this helps keep it closed.

I use a wire basket muzzle with a leather belt like closure if it is necessary for him not to remove it..


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I am taking him training this Thursday to try and channel his aggression in the correct way. He has 2 be muzzled even on the lead incase another dog comes up 2 us. If he is off the lead he will run up 2 another dog and pin them 2 the floor. He is very naughty with it. He has always been socialised with other dogs from a puppy as I didnt want this2 happen. But it seams he is getting worse each time I take him out. I have a 3 year old daughter he has grown up with so I hope I can sort him out otherwise I fear he will need 2 be rehomed. Xx
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What I'm getting from this statement is that you muzzle your dog when you have to leave her alone in the house.
Is this safe? It soumds like a really bad idea to me.
She is confined, and wears it so she wont eat my door frames. Without it she has destroyed 3 door frames, and several feet of floor moldings. I dont need bowel perforation from wood chunks.

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