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Old 12-06-2012, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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pregnant with a big energetic dog with barking issues

Im nearly 6 months gone and my dog is the type that likes attention too much (as dobermans do) he cries non stop when he's outside and if he hears the car leave he drives neighbours mad with barking, Im at breaking point with the crying it gets to be too much at times and now Im stuck at home from 5 each day as barking is worse in the dark. He's a big doberman 2 years old and hard for me to walk I really want to sort it out before baby gets here. (he's 100% teddy bear I'v no fear when it comes to baby and him just him crying and me been tired from little sleep with newborn)

any tactics or solutions that has worked for others greatly accepted
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like he needs exercise...a tired dog is a happy dog!
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this dog never gets tired we can run him all day he will still freak when were not next to him getting hard to do people stuff
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Has he ever been to a doggy day care? If not I'd try that out and if it's something that you can afford to do a couple of times a week it might be a good plan . Doggy daycare, in my experience (6 years of working in them), tires even the most energetic dogs out. ALSO it will give you a day of no whining.
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Where do you keep him when you leave? Is he confined?

Ivan used to bark a lot when I would leave the house in the mornings for work. As he got older, gained access to more of the house, and I left him with hidden treats to find throughout the house, he stopped caring if I was leaving. I can be at the door putting on my coat and shoes and Ivan's off hunting for the treats.

Which one or ones ultimately did the trick, I can't say for certain.
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It sounds to me like he doesn't know how to settle, relax, calm down, etc. I don't leave my dogs outside unattended if they are going to bark at neighbors, etc. I can't tell from the post if he is inside or outside. Have you two been to any good obedience classes? Is there someone that can take him now?
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well a day off sounds great! not sure there is a doggie day care here though
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he has a whole garden to himself a massive dog house and when he's inside settles in minutes he just hates when we leave and he is trained for obedience he just dont tire easy
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sounds like he needs exercise...a tired dog is a happy dog!
This. Do you have someone who can help you? I think I made my husband take over dog walking duties from the time I got a little uncomfortable walking the whole way preggars until a couple of months after the baby was born. We still split dog-walking, as I don't quite trust her enough to walk her solo with the stroller. (She's generally good, but one surprise suicidal squirrel and she *could* upset me and the stroller both...)

Does he play fetch? Fetch is a GREAT game for tiring him without stressing you.

You can also work on some training inside to tire his mind without stressing your body overmuch. In addition to the usual tricks and such, you could work on teaching a "Hush!" or "No bark" command!

I also found "Get Back" (take a few steps backwards) to be an awfully useful command to try to get Delta to give the baby some space. After all, the baby can't get away if he doesn't want to be dober-licked!

It also sounds like his barking might be separation anxiety? Does he bark when y'all are inside together or just when he's left in the backyard?

Have you ever tried clicker training? There are some great articles here too, but you would need to familairize yourself (and him) with the basics of clicker training first:
How to Stop Unwanted Barking | Karen Pryor Clicker Training

Managing Your Dog's Separation Anxiety | Karen Pryor Clicker Training

Best of luck, and congratulations on your upcoming little one!
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he plays fetch for 2 mins then looks at us as if to say now you fetch! Not tried the clicker yet but may try it anything Iv not tried I will

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Old 12-06-2012, 06:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but if you wanted a well-adjusted well-mannered adult dog you should have concerned yourself with his training long before now. You've given him an unrealistic deadline to shape-up in 3 months after you've spent 2 years allowing him to behave this way.

You have your work cut out for you. I'd recommend getting a trainer involved or hiring someone to help you exercise him since you can't.
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That right there is awesome if he was livestock. Not a happy or acceptable environment for a doberman. Dobermans are not content being left out by themselves.

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So what is the problem? I really don't understand.

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Where do you leave him? Inside or outside?
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my dog is the type that likes attention too much (as dobermans do) he cries non stop when he's outside
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I think you have been provided with some good suggestions so far. I just wanted to touch on the points Julie also raised above. I have the impression from your posts that your dog may spend a lot of time outside in the garden. As already noted above, Dobermans are not a breed that does well left unattended outside. They want to be by their people.

My first Dobe was a breeder rehome because he was left alone outside all day by his original owners, barked non-stop, got bored and killed birds, etc. They thought he was unmanagable. However, once we got him and he spent time with us he improved dramatically and ended up being an amazing dog. He tended to be a bit barky when left alone even inside for the first few years, I think because of his early on experience and a bit of separation anxiety. However, neither him or my current doberman would ever do well just being left in the back yard. If the door is open they will wander in and out, but the minute the back door closes, they would bark at the door to be let in.

The point being is that it is not realistic that your Doberman is going to be content left alone in the garden. It does sound like he may need more exercise and to learn how to settle. But even if you do these things, I am guessing he will likely never be content to just stay in the garden alone. I think it's important that you have realistic expectations about that...

Other breeds are different. I have an Aussie pup and she absolutely loves to be outside. I had to set up an indoor /outdoor x-pen adjacent off our family room door so she could be in and out, yet safely contained when I am not right there with her.

Good luck with things.
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As already noted above, Dobermans are not a breed that does well left unattended outside. They want to be by their people.
This is one of the reasons we chose a Dobe as our next dog. We wanted a dog that wanted to be with us (and had the energy to keep up as we are out and about a lot). My last dog, as much as he loved me, also loved to just lay out in the backyard all day. I didn't like that, I like my dog to want to be with me. I'm home all day, my kids are in school, I want that companionship.

To the OP, I don't have anything to add. You have been given some great advice, and suggestions already. Good luck
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Dobes not only need physical stimulation, but mental stimulation is just as important. Just because he has a large yard to run in, doesn't mean he is continuously running the whole time he's out there, and its probably pretty boring for him on top of that.

I agree with the daycare idea, and/or getting him into an obedience class. The mental stimulation might really make a difference for him. Good luck.
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Besides the fact that it sound like he needs exercise and stimulation as others have stated....

I believe herein lies your problem. He doesn't want a massive garden and dog house to himself. He wants to be a part of the family and be in the house with you. He is after all a Doberman and they are genetically programmed to be physically attached to you.

Bring him in the house with you, give him a place to lay near you and teach him to "go lay down".

Rather than leaving him in the "garden" when you leave the house. Leave him in the house. If he can't be trusted loose in the house, then leave him crated in the house.

He's young, energetic and intelligent and suffering from boredom, lack of exercise and loneliness.
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dont know where to begin with all the posts he's perfectly trained with his obedience since day 1 and is only outside when I need to go away eg shopping or visiting where big dogs are not always welcome and He is the centre of our family as it is and gets all the attention needed but I need to be able do things without worrying that he aint ok. The problem only started recently and I just needed some tips from people who might understand not judge that I dont do enough with him or for him. He is not just abandoned but Im pregnant and often attend the hospital which might be for extended periods of time (3-4 hours each visit) some things are out of my control. He's got lots to stimulate him and has lots of interaction with people, other dogs and lots of farm animals. As for the house been good for live stock, Im making sure he has somewhere warm and sheltered should he want to lie down its made to suit him and his needs should I have not bothered??? I thought it was the law to supply shelter for when there outside or did I miss that point. I cant have him with me 24-7 I can just do my best when Im not tied up doing something that has to be done I dont work so its not as though he is alone all day every day. The problem is him barking when left alone either inside or outside
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What kinds of activities did you and your family do with your dog before you got pregnant?
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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same as we do now Long walks and runs. We go out with other people and there dogs and he has toys and we do training with him and change things up such as hide and seek with treats and so on. Nothing has changed since I got pregnant except I dont hold his lead anymore but Im there for the walks
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Im nearly 6 months gone and my dog is the type that likes attention too much (as dobermans do) he cries non stop when he's outside and if he hears the car leave he drives neighbours mad with barking, Im at breaking point with the crying it gets to be too much at times and now Im stuck at home from 5 each day as barking is worse in the dark. He's a big doberman 2 years old and hard for me to walk I really want to sort it out before baby gets here. (he's 100% teddy bear I'v no fear when it comes to baby and him just him crying and me been tired from little sleep with newborn)

any tactics or solutions that has worked for others greatly accepted
Well, I guess I am a little confused. Let's try this again.

You say: he cries non stop when he's outside

My question is: Why does he have to be outside? Why can't you have him inside and just crate him if you need him to be out of the way?

and this; he drives neighbours mad with barking

Again, why does he have to be outside? You say he is well trained and I am assuming that he is housebroken. If you are concerned with leaving him loose in the house when you are away, why not crate him inside the house. Then he won't bother the neighbors and he won't be nearly as unhappy.

...now Im stuck at home from 5 each day as barking is worse in the dark

I am not quite sure what this means, but sounds like he is outside at night (all night?) and his barking is driving you crazy. Does he not stay inside at night?

I have 2 and I would never leave them outside when I am not home. They would also raise a ruckus and probably bother our neighbors even here in the country. Not to mention the trouble they might find to get into. I would be extremely concerned leaving your dog outside when you are gone, if the neighbors are upset with his barking. It's pretty easy to toss something laced with poison over the fence and cure the barking problem forever. I do hope you are on good terms with your neighbors.

When we are gone, Wheeler is loose in the house and spends most of his time sleeping on our bed. Lola is crated if we are only going to be gone a few hours. If we are going to be gone all day, she either goes to Daycare or comes with us. I don't like to leave any dog crated more than a few hours, except at night when they are sleeping.

I am not sure that I am understanding correctly, but it sounds like he is barking and whining because he is outside and he wants in, and my solution is to let him in. Not being judgmental here, just trying to offer assistance.
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He's only out when I have to go away he's in apart from that. Always in at night since I got him. I mean if I go away to appointment at 3 and not back till half 5 or 6pm its dark (gets dark at half 4 during winter) and thats when he'll bark. I cant control the time Im gone Im with him all the time apart from that why assume he's neglected? If I go and leave him inside he will bark just as much he does not like been alone and sometimes he has to be. you need to read this reply in full and my last one
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He's only out when I have to go away he's in apart from that. Always in at night since I got him. I mean if I go away to appointment at 3 and not back till half 5 or 6pm its dark (gets dark at half 4 during winter) and thats when he'll bark. I cant control the time Im gone Im with him all the time apart from that why assume he's neglected? If I go and leave him inside he will bark just as much he does not like been alone and sometimes he has to be. you need to read this reply in full and my last one
I am not assuming he is neglected at all. Like I said, I was just a bit confused by the wording. It sounded like you are home with him all day and when it gets dark he is barking and it is driving you crazy.

I get that there are times he has to be left alone. Not many of us can be with our dogs 24/7. It sounds like you may have some separation anxiety going on there, and I still think that even if he barks inside the house when you are gone, at least it won't bother your neighbors as much, and it is very likely that he will be much less stressed inside your home in a crate.

Crates are safe, cozy places if used properly and a properly crate trained dog likes their crate.

I have no personal experience with separation anxiety, even though I am home all day, I do not have this issue with my dogs. But, I don't leave them outside when I am gone. I would definitely have similar trouble if I left them outside.

Hopefully there are some here that have experience with it and can offer suggestions. You are likely to find a good deal of information on the Internet.

I wish you the best and congratulations on the new addition soon to come.
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He's only out when I have to go away he's in apart from that. Always in at night since I got him. I mean if I go away to appointment at 3 and not back till half 5 or 6pm its dark (gets dark at half 4 during winter) and thats when he'll bark. I cant control the time Im gone Im with him all the time apart from that why assume he's neglected? If I go and leave him inside he will bark just as much he does not like been alone and sometimes he has to be. you need to read this reply in full and my last one
Your replies ARE being read in full, it seems as though you came to this forum, asked a question, don't read the replies in full and then get defensive. People are trying to help (which is what you asked for). He is better off barking INSIDE, not outside, if you have to go out, crate him and leave him inside. He won't drive the neighbors nearly as crazy if he's inside. I'm not trying to be rude, but it seems like you're getting angry at people for trying to help you.

No, you can't control the time you're gone, but you CAN control where you leave him when you're gone.

I was pregnant twice with large dogs, and now have 2 kids (both with autism) and a dog. I never leave my dogs outside, especially when I am not home, and there are plenty of times I can't control how long I am gone, which is why it is sooo important to leave them inside, in a crate where they are safe. Sometimes they bark, but at least they're in. Good luck and congrats on the baby.

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Sounds like normal dog behavior when left outside like that. Leave him inside while you go to your appointments or run errands (or even better if you can take him along with you for the ride and fun like when you go to the drive thru pharmacy or pick up his dog food or make a run for that special food you are craving, many banks even give dog treats in the drive thru, etc.). Don't leave him outside unattended. When left alone inside give him something special, like a special chew bone or durable toy and leave on some music for him.
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Ireland doesnt have so much as a dog park there is no such thing as day care for them and they are not welcome in towns without a muzzle and as for shopping centers and so on they wont be aloud anywhere near them. Ireland is far from been dog friendly. So not always easy to bring him places where Im not gonna get into trouble over him. As for him barking in the house our house is joined onto another and if there dog is inside (small dog) and I can hear him they will hear mine even more so it wont solve that problem
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