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Old 12-04-2012, 01:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there, I am new to this site.. and having a doberman, so I am looking for an advice. We adopted a 5 years old doberman that have beed used for breeding and prevoius owner will not give us his contacts or papers so we can't really breed him ( we are not interested in breeding anyways, just in dog's health interests really) unless we use ex-owner and he wants a half of earnings, which is not an issue. He gave up the dog so we don't want him to have a contact with the dog- not to confuse him and he wants to take him himself everytime for breeding. So, what do we do? Is it safe for a dog to castrate him being 5 years old stud?? We have another smaller dog (neutered) and dont want any issues between them. We love the dog and don't really care about papers or breeding but want what's best for the dog. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, you can castrate at 5 yrs- the oldest I have ever had "fixed" was 8 yrs old (rescue) and he did just fine. I am not sure what type (if any) contract you have with the ex owner- but you must legally own the dog in order to have it done, or you could face legal issues. Especially if you were allowed to take him under a breeding contract.

A even bigger problem however, is that Dobermans are very often same sex aggressive- regardless of whether or not they are neutered. I would never allow your small dog to be unsupervised around the Dobe. It could end VERY badly...
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you for the reply.
He has great temper and gets along with people and dogs (unless it is an intact male and even then it is controlable, he is very obedient). He is great with our other dog. I am getting an adoption document from him today, stating that we can't breed him, but he diddnt mention that when we took the dog ( the opposite actually- he said he would provide us with his contacts and his papers so) . It came up a week later. Again, the only reason we would breed him would be if he NEEDED it. I an just concerned with the health risks coming from neutering him so late.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"Again, the only reason we would breed him would be if he NEEDED it."
What do you mean, NEEDED it?
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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lol, like I said. I am new to this. All my dogs before were neutered. So what I meant is- dealing with some sort of frustration related to that. Do we need to take him somewhere, do we just deal with it or is it better to castrate him?
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If you don't want to deal with an intact male dog and the behaviors they can exhibit, then neuter. There are really not any health risks to neutering an older dog than to do it as a puppy, as long as you have current bloodwork done to make sure he has no medical conditions that make anesthesia unwise.

And just because this new boy plays well with others and is obedient, does NOT mean he is 100% safe around another male dog! Use the search function at top of the forum to search "same sex aggression" posts- it will, I guarantee, be an eye opener! It was to me- I had raised my prior Dobe with many other male dogs (all neutered) and had been planning to add a second male (also neutered) Dobe to my home after my current pup was finished with his training. What I learned on this forum has made me rethink that plan...
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thank you, I am taking him tto the vet tomorrow. I think it is goingto be first time in a while for this guy..
I will look into "same sex aggression" info available. Any advice on possible traing there?
We also have a very old cat.... And that is not going as well, he is not attacking her , but certainly very curious.
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No dog needs to breed. Without the impetus of an in-heat female he will not get urges that he has to act upon.

If you can legally castrate him, ie there is no contract for breeding rights with the old owner then I would have him done.

In relation to same sex aggression, please be very, very careful, aggression/violence can erupt for no seeming reason in the blink of an eye. As the owner of a Dobe who has taken several chunks out of my Terrier I know all too clearly how all can turn to tears in a matter of seconds.

Regards the cat, there is an old saying, 'curiosity killed the cat' whilst I have adulterated the saying to fit your circumstances fact is, Dobes can and do often have a high prey drive and unless your boy was raised with cats I would be very, very wary of letting him near your little one.

Good luck.

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First off, do NOT leave him alone with the cat. If he's showing too much interest, keep a leash on him for a quick grab, and supervise any and all interactions with the cat. Second, make sure the cat has a completely dog-free area to escape to.
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i had a 10 year old dog neutered once and he went through surgery fine and bounced back quickly.

who is your new boys breeder (did the previous owner tell you?)............can they help with training, etc.

Hugz to Wheeler!

we would LOVE to see a picture of your boy too!
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Cat has the lower part of the house and Wheeler has no way of finding her. We have "cat sessions" daily, when we would hold her and he is just hanging with us. So far so good.
Thank you for all the help from us and Wheeler
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lol, like I said. I am new to this. All my dogs before were neutered. So what I meant is- dealing with some sort of frustration related to that. Do we need to take him somewhere, do we just deal with it or is it better to castrate him?
Think of it like your boyfriend or husband...everytime they see a hot woman and get an urge should you allow them to go act upon it?

H e double hockey sticks no, because they don't NEED to
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