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post #26 of 39 (permalink) Old 12-01-2012, 09:47 AM
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If it makes you feel better, I have had German's in the Lower Saxony area of Germany ask me if Odin was a Rottweiler. I mean c'mon, both of those breeds originate from here you would like to think they could tell the difference. But nope, they are just as stupid here too. Makes me wish you could C/D here, at least there wouldn't be any confusion then. Then again Odin looks nothing like a Rottie...

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If it makes you feel better, I have had German's in the Lower Saxony area of Germany ask me if Odin was a Rottweiler. I mean c'mon, both of those breeds originate from here you would like to think they could tell the difference. But nope, they are just as stupid here too. Makes me wish you could C/D here, at least there wouldn't be any confusion then. Then again Odin looks nothing like a Rottie...
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I was sitting in the vet's office one day with Bacchus and a woman walked over and said she was so glad I didn't have his ears cropped.

Bacchus has a show crop......

Idiots.
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Thus far I haven't encountered anyone who hasn't immediately recognized Remy as a Doberman (he is natural eared, black & rust). My red natural boy, on the other hand, was occasionally mislabeled as a Weimeraner (cuz they come in RED, right?).

My Rottweiler was OFTEN not recognized as a Rott- he was black & mahogany, German style, show bred and was a lovely example of his breed. Most folks in this area obviously had only seen the crap bred "Muttweilers" and thus had no clue what he was. I was dumbfounded when folks who were in the middle of petting him would automatically jump backwards as they asked what he was and I replied "rottweiler". Seriously, like that word is going to turn the dog you are petting into a dangerous animal? People are idiots, pure and simple...

I will confess though, that I do have an instant (negative) response to cropped ears. I know that it causes them pain, and only for a cosmetic result- so admit freely that is does bother me. I try very hard not to make negative comments, but have on occasion without thinking first. I think the same thing when I see folks with body modification piercings, but they did it willingly. Can't imagine any dog willingly submitting to surgery & the posting process if given an option...

That being said, it is a personal choice for the owner, unless the law states otherwise, so I just opt to not subject my dogs to it and hope that someday the standard moves away from such practices...
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I love the floppy ears. Especially when both flop back and get stuck and my dog is walking around looking like she has buns. To the NON-croppers out there.......-imageuploadedbypg-free1354380699.287660.jpg


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I was at a dog show with Avril, her ears standing up and this guy who shows dogs came up to me and said he was so happy I didn't crop her ears. And I think it's the color that's getting people thinking he's not purebred. When we had our blue and our fawn we always got comments asking if they were purebred.

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If it makes you feel better, I have had German's in the Lower Saxony area of Germany ask me if Odin was a Rottweiler. I mean c'mon, both of those breeds originate from here you would like to think they could tell the difference. But nope, they are just as stupid here too. Makes me wish you could C/D here, at least there wouldn't be any confusion then. Then again Odin looks nothing like a Rottie...

I'm also living in Germany, and the VET TECH at the clinic asked me if Ashra was a Labrador. And when I said no, she's a Dobermann the same woman asked me if she was a mix
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LOL I think it's funny OP that you're so bothered to the point you feel compelled to drag out registration papers(curious what breeder would let you have flops anyway)....and expect Joe Q Public to get that dobes can come in blue and aren't born cropped.

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I'm also living in Germany, and the VET TECH at the clinic asked me if Ashra was a Labrador. And when I said no, she's a Dobermann the same woman asked me if she was a mix
Oh man that's brilliant. A Lab seriously? at least a Rottie is similar in colouring but a Dobe looks naff all like a Lab.

Where about's in Germany are you?

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Oh man that's brilliant. A Lab seriously? at least a Rottie is similar in colouring but a Dobe looks naff all like a Lab.

Where about's in Germany are you?
I guess she's a "black Lab" just like a brown Dobe is a "chocolate Lab"... Dobes are really becoming unpopular here these days, I guess. I still find it strange that people in the country of origin where the breed is not C/D have trouble identifying it . I'm in Berlin, btw.
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I get people asking - or telling - me all the time that Willie is a chocolate Lab or mix. Once upon a time, I cared... but people no longer ask for confirmation... they tell you, because clearly they are experts. I really, truly no longer give a hoot. Those who are interested can ask. Those who tell me have already lost my respect or interest at the outset. When I was about 16, we had a GSP who I showed briefly as a junior handler. Some arrogant bastard on the street one day advised me that Clem was a Vials. When I corrected him, he got hostile. Clem was very calm, but began a menacing growl under his breath, dear boy, and the a-hole huffed away. I really don't care what strangers think.


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Sully is only 45lbs and has ears and a tail and so far no one has mistaken him for anything other than a doberman. One person wasn't sure if he was a purebred or not.
Saph is cropped and docked and people usually think she is a great dane(70lbs) or a greyhound.... you know, because she is grey.

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My Rottweiler was OFTEN not recognized as a Rott- he was black & mahogany, German style, show bred and was a lovely example of his breed. Most folks in this area obviously had only seen the crap bred "Muttweilers" and thus had no clue what he was. I was dumbfounded when folks who were in the middle of petting him would automatically jump backwards as they asked what he was and I replied "rottweiler". Seriously, like that word is going to turn the dog you are petting into a dangerous animal? People are idiots, pure and simple...
Thought I posted on this before. Forum musta ate it.

I get this ALL THE TIME when walking Mocha or Baby. As soon as I say "chow mix" or "pit bull" when they ask what they are, they jump back/snatch their children away. And then, just in case the dog might overhear and snap right there and then, they lean in close and give me the hushed whisper of "don't you know they turn on their owners once they mature?"

Mocha is 4 in February, Baby is 8, both dogs have old lady grey faces.

Back when I had the GSDs, I got "wolf" and "hybrid" a lot with the sables. The black GSD (Queenie) was often a "lab mix", though one lady swore she looked just like her "champion show lined" black lab Even better, a buddy of mine was telling me about how she was walking an English Bulldog and some yahoo pulled over and told her she had a really nice looking Doberman.


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Elka, cropped and docked, has been called various things. By children, she's been called a reindeer, a horse, and a cow. By adults, she's been called a greyhound more than once, a great dane, and also a Doberman but clearly a mix


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Probably a bit less painful than a spay, but you're right, it's a surgical procedure and anything relating to surgery is going to cause some pain. Puppies "endure" it just fine though...just like spays and neuters
This. Elka's spay bothered her FAR more than having her ears cropped.

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