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Old 11-27-2012, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dobe History Buff's......check out these.........

hmmmmmmmmm, guess that should of said......Dobe History Buffs!



vintage show photos from the early 70's.

Thanks again TopSkipper for sharing them with us!

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does anyone know who any of these Doberman are?

love the old black and white show photos!
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I don't know any of them but whoever this is caught my eye

Same here, like a beautiful combo of the "old" look and the "new" look
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^^^ That was one of my favorite pictures as well. I think its cool to see how the preference in 'show' crop has changed.
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It's cool to see that fronts have improved - a lot!
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70's is vintage? oh nooo...
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It's cool to see that fronts have improved - a lot!
First thing I noticed too! TopSkipper, where are ya?
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Who is the handler? It's the same guy in all the pictures, it looks like.
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vivienne00, i disagree.

I much prefer the balanced fronts of the dobes from days gone by....way more correct than the overdone fronts of today.

but that is just my opinion.

nice square dobes too..................

hard toplines.......

nice.



I am hoping TopSkipper will join in on this thread to talk about dobes of the past with us!

hint.....hint..........
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OK, just for some fun...I will give you the name of one of the dogs in the show photos...........

her (big hint ) name is Sultana Von Marienburg


who can find her photo...................

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The one at Riverside, CA is my favorite - he looks like the Dobes my grandfather and cousin had at that time... I'm a bit fuzzier about the earlier ones (1950's/60's)... have to see if I can dredge up any of the old photos. Unfortunately, I only have 1 of my grandpa with his Dobe, Lord, in Hamburg, Germany in the 1920's - have to see if I can dig that out too, and scan for you... my project for the winter?
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hm.

no one knows who Sultana von Marienburg is?

ok, her day was way before most of you where born.............but still if you are into dobes you should do research that goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back.

in her day Sultana was the top winning dobe out there..........37 all breed BIS - 94 group 1st. - 148 Best of Breeds - winner of 10 specilaties - BB at the National in 1967 and 1968...........

and to think one of our Dt members has photos of her winning her class a long time ago.................. how cool is that!!!

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vivienne00, i disagree.

I much prefer the balanced fronts of the dobes from days gone by....way more correct than the overdone fronts of today.
Some people would prefer a straighter front, and they would make perfectly lovely statues, but you need to judge movement as well.
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i do not prefer a straighter front............i prefer a balanced front.

balanced fronts move way better than overdone or straight fronts.
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I didn't know, but I did google her. Very impressive girl and I love her name!
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I know who Sultana is, even tho I was quite young, I do remember her. Not sure which photo is Sultana, tho. If I had to guess I would say the one titled WB La Specialty. I thought Rex Vandev..... handled her, and I am thinking the handler in TopSkipper's photos is not Rex V, but again, I was very young and so my recollection is of a much older man. Of course, back then I thought 30 was ancient. LOL!
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the handler in the photos is not Rex.

though Rex specialed her.

if you have a good dobe breed book, in the article about sultana...............the handler in the photos is mentioned.





oh yah, the sultana photo is not the La specialty wb pic.
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Is this Sultnana? If so, I'd say the handler is Dick Sufficool.

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me thinks most of you missed the second page of photos in TopSkippers gallery....................

Rosemary!!!!! YES..the handler in the photos is Dick Sufficool!
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me thinks most of you missed the second page of photos in TopSkippers gallery....................

Rosemary!!!!! YES..the handler in the photos is Dick Sufficool!
So, did I get Sultana right? I went through the pictures until I found one of a bitch that looked like it matched a picture of her in one of my books, but with a different handler. The book gave a list of people that had handled her, and his name was there. The link for the photo had Dick as part of it. Sooo, 2+2 sometimes = 4.
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you found out who the handler is just like i did.

though I did ask TopSkipper, just to be sure.

the photo of Sultana is the one that Q and I made comments on..................
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me too.

hey, love your sig.

except...........

it should say.............her..........she..........



nothing like a feisty black and tan female doberman!

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