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PAL registration name idea help

PAL/ILP registration has been a thought set in my head for about a month now, and I feel soon I am going to go through with it.

But first, just for giggles, can anyone help come up with a snazzy new 'Name' for my boy? I saw a few threads that were very helpful and some ILP names are just so creative you would never thing they were rescues.

Rouleaux is a stacking of red blood cells (RBCs) which form because of the unique discoid shape of the cells in vertebrates (like stacking poker chips - cool key word is "stacking" as I see it used A LOT on this site).

For some reason the phrase Poindexer keeps sticking out in my mind as part of his name. He is quick as a whip and I myself can be quite the nerd.
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XXX's Stacking the Dex..... (play on Poindexter)

I did Jonesy's by using my first name as the kennel name ie "Summer's Lost Ark Raider"....

For you, you could use your first name, last name, maybe the city/shelter he came from.... Put that where I put the XXX

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I don't have any suggestions for you, but he's a cute red boy, I love his outfit.

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Wow I didn't know that existed I think I might do that with Rowan. As for a name I have no sweet clue but I'm sure one day it'll just pop into your mind and that will be his name. What about ___ Poindexter on a Roll, not sure if that makes sense though :p


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What a pretty boy. Sorry not good with names
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Thanks everyone. Keep the ideas coming. I just sent an e-mail requesting information regarding if he is indeed supposed to be neutered prior to registration. I certainly don't plan on breeding, but 6 months is much too young IMO to neuter. If I have to wait to pursue this then that is what I will have to do.

I met his parents, and he isn't from a rescue, but all I can say is he is not the product of a Ktal dog (and that is where I leave it). I have had him since he was about 7-8 weeks old.

I just feel like he DESERVES to be recognized somehow, and this is how I want to do it for him. He is eager to please and I feel if nothing else agility competition or rally would be the way to go.

I feel like using my name is silly- but it is a good idea and I'll see how it fits in.

I have thought of 1 potential name that I really like, but I feel like I can't use it.

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You will have to neuter him before they register him, you have to send in a certificate of neuter or the vet bill from the neuter....

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You will have to neuter him before they register him, you have to send in a certificate of neuter or the vet bill from the neuter....
You actually do not have to send this, any longer.

However, you do have to sign an agreement attesting that the animal is neutered, and that you will provide proof upon demand, at any time.

So, yes, he does need to be neutered, first, OP.

One thing to keep in mind, since the suggestion of using your own name as the "kennel prefix" in his PAL name, is that BYBs do this very, very often, if they register their breeding animals.

It sounds like you're choosing PAL as a means to honoring the dog, while not giving credit to that BYB (something I agree with and applaud, btw), and so I'd myself probably avoid naming him in a sort of "BYBish way," if that makes sense.

I'd probably either name him something cool, and not worry about a prefix or suffix at all, or I'd use my street name or farm name or something like that, if you really want a prefix, and if you have something cool.

Don't forget to check and make sure you aren't accidentally using some recognized breeder's name, either.

You didn't say whether you wanted his call name in his registered name or not.

Whisper's "registered" name is Whisper Words of Wisdom.

She was named by the shelter workers, so I just added the rest, since her call name was easily incorporated.

I do like your call name, btw.

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So this is going to be a while. Thank you for the confirmation. I haven't received the e-mail from AKC regarding my questions yet.

Doesn't mean I should stop thinking of "names"!
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You actually do not have to send this, any longer.

However, you do have to sign an agreement attesting that the animal is neutered, and that you will provide proof upon demand, at any time.

So, yes, he does need to be neutered, first, OP.

One thing to keep in mind, since the suggestion of using your own name as the "kennel prefix" in his PAL name, is that BYBs do this very, very often, if they register their breeding animals.

It sounds like you're choosing PAL as a means to honoring the dog, while not giving credit to that BYB (something I agree with and applaud, btw), and so I'd myself probably avoid naming him in a sort of "BYBish way," if that makes sense.

I'd probably either name him something cool, and not worry about a prefix or suffix at all, or I'd use my street name or farm name or something like that, if you really want a prefix, and if you have something cool.

Don't forget to check and make sure you aren't accidentally using some recognized breeder's name, either.

You didn't say whether you wanted his call name in his registered name or not.

Whisper's "registered" name is Whisper Words of Wisdom.

She was named by the shelter workers, so I just added the rest, since her call name was easily incorporated.

I do like your call name, btw.
Thank you very much for the input. And his call name can be a bit of conversation ender when I explain the meaning, but I love it and had wanted to name a red dobie this for a while- dream come true!

And although I wanted to incorporate his call name into the PAL name, it may be too much. Although I am always open to suggestions

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Good to know... about the neuter thingy....


But WTF I don't think Jonesy's name sounds BYBish...
Nor do I think if you use your own name makes it seem that way...

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Good to know... about the neuter thingy....


But WTF I don't think Jonesy's name sounds BYBish...
Nor do I think if you use your own name makes it seem that way...
There was no offense intended to you, and I did not say your dog's name sounded BYB per se, but yes, it's very common for BYBs to use either their first or last name as the prefix in their "stock's" registered names.

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I think it is a very broad/blanket statement....
There are very reputable breeder that use their name as well or part of their names...

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I think it is a very broad/blanket statement....
There are very reputable breeder that use their name as well or part of their names...
Yeah, but when you see a dog named Smith's Big Boy Meaty Porkchop....

You can pretty much tell the BYB dogs just from reading the trial catalog. I know of a Mini Schnauzer bitch named Chloe Clara Cordell. Yep, owner's last name is Cordell. Breeder is Carolyn Livingston. Sire is CL's Sammy Man Seemerunning. Dam is CL'c Mystic Sonya Dancer. As small as this bitch is (not much bigger than a Yorkie), it's a good bet she was sold as a "toy" Schnauzer.


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I am just saying if I used that logic then I guess from now on all Carosel(last name), Gorrmae(Gorr last name), Kye(L.J. Kye), Marquis(last name) dogs I see are now BYB dogs.... Because they use their names as part of their kennel name.... (these are just breeders I can think of off the top of my head) When I look at a dog in a catalog I don't just assume they are a BYB from the name.

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Yeah, but when you see a dog named Smith's Big Boy Meaty Porkchop....

You can pretty much tell the BYB dogs just from reading the trial catalog. I know of a Mini Schnauzer bitch named Chloe Clara Cordell. Yep, owner's last name is Cordell. Breeder is Carolyn Livingston. Sire is CL's Sammy Man Seemerunning. Dam is CL'c Mystic Sonya Dancer. As small as this bitch is (not much bigger than a Yorkie), it's a good bet she was sold as a "toy" Schnauzer.
Yeah, we just had an owner surrender black/rust bitch come in to rescue and her reg'd name is "Melody's Midnight Mesha." Yeah, not the worst ever, for sure, but also smacks of BYB-style.

My first red boy rescue was...wait for it, this is truly BYB awesomeness...Tim's Demon Damien Dillinger.

There's also a lot of violence, and also...royalty, in many BYB names.


Miller's Bullet Biter

Ransom's King Rex

Lady Duchess Diana

Frank's Fang Glock von King Karcass

Princess Sugar Lee Tippytoes

Smith's Baron Crotch-Mauler von JunqueYard

That sort of thing.

I agree, you can tell the BYB dogs in the catalog, usually just by their names. Hopefully, many of them are rescues, since BYBs usually don't do much but breed.




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I am just saying if I used that logic then I guess from now on all Carosel(last name), Gorrmae(Gorr last name), Kye(L.J. Kye), Marquis(last name) dogs I see are now BYB dogs.... Because they use their names as part of their kennel name.... (these are just breeders I can think of off the top of my head) When I look at a dog in a catalog I don't just assume they are a BYB from the name.
OMG, what is your deal?

Are you seriously comparing Carol Petruzzo's chosen names to the stupid crap BYB mentalities come up with?

How about Elaine Hopper? She uses the kennel name "Starlaine."

You forgot her.

Look, you seem to be working hard to take offense over this, when not only was there never any intended, but an explanation and reiteration of that was given to you, but hey, you carry on and get all worked up if you want--surely no one cares to deprive you of that drama.

Hey, OP, sorry about your thread--was truly trying to offer you some information on "formally" naming Rouleaux.

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OP- my beloved rescue boy has the ILP name of Rescue Rex, so the type of dog he is was very obvious when trialing him. I like how his titles rhyme with his name as he is Rescue Rex CDX.

Summer, I'm not sure why you got offended but RFR is right in that many BYB do use their own name in the dog's name.

A name is a personal thing, but all my dogs have been named before they even came home with me from my breeder. Only the call name was chosen by me. It does not bother me in the least if their name is a bit wonky (Goldgrove Cheers Diversha is a bit odd but represents 2 breeders!)
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I'll never understand how anyone can perceive emotion in text. I am not worked up. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I am offended... It means I don't agree with the your blanket statement. Sorry...

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BTW OP I like the one Leliel had that I bolded, she had lots of good ones

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I liked that one too. But I'm stuck on one I know I'm going to kick myself for :/
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Torn, I hate that. I was like that with Jonesy's name too.

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I can't stop laughing at this one. Please tell me you don't know of an actual dog with this name rather just your creativity at work!
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Torn, I hate that. I was like that with Jonesy's name too.

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I can't stop laughing at this one. Please tell me you don't know of an actual dog with this name rather just your creativity at work!
That one is pretty good. Maybe she made that one up, maybe it's a real name. However, BYBs do tend to use "von" a lot. Not that reputable breeders don't use it too, but for some reason, you see a lot of BYB Dobes, GSDs and Rotties with "von" in their names. Of course, I intend to contribute to that in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way. I plan on naming my rescued GSD girl (picked up from the parking lot of a landromat) "Speed Queen Leontine von Washateria".

(Actually, I think it should be "von dem" or "vom" JunqueYard. I think "YunqueYard" would probably be considered a masculine noun.)


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