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Old 02-17-2012, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Two Males?

I have seen alot of threads about Dobermans being male on male aggresive. I am still on the hunt for the 'perfect' new edition to our household, but I am planning on getting a male.

I have four dogs. Jack Russel, Female, Spayed, 2yrs old. Yorkie, Male Neutered 8yrs old. Border Collie Mix, Spayed, 13 yrs old. Fiest Mix, Intact, 11 yrs old.

My question is this: Would a male Dobie have problems with Rascal (Fiest) since he is not neutered? My Collie mix, Leya, is pretty much top-dog, and Rascal has always aknowleged her as 'pack leader' but he is 'Beta'.

Are Dobermans generally only aggressive with male members of their own breed, or is it male dogs in general? I will deffinately be getting the Dobe neutered once he is mature enough, but would that do much good?


I realize this thread is a bit rambly, but any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 02-17-2012, 09:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Male/male aggression doesn't necessarily mean dobe/dobe only. It could be a dobe and another breed (male) that do not mesh.

I would be concerned that Rascal isn't neutered and you bring another male dog into the mix. It's hard to predict if they will co-exist peacefully or not. What happens if they don't and you have to rehome one or crate/rotate?

Not a risk I would personally be willing to take, IMHO.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Male-male aggression can happen towards any breed, not just other dobermans, and it can be VERY nasty. The people who keep two males peaceably are simply lucky .

No reputable breeder will sell you a male puppy with males already in the household and, to be honest, why would you want to risk the well-being of any of your dogs? An attack could seriously hurt or even kill one of them (doberman included).
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I dont have two males nor have I ever. IMO it will really depend on the dogs as far as a mix is concerned. This is the first time I have had 2 dogs of the same sex at once. My two females which I really did not put much thought into before aquiring the third. I will say that with my female dobe it does make a difference if your male or female. When Kyrah turned around 15 -18 months some changes were happening. They got into some squabbles then one big fight. Then Kyrah used to give my female terrier, Tippy, eyes that could kill. There is a peace right now but I am always on the look out for any type of looks, posturing and things like that. They are separated when I leave. Tippy has bowed out of the higher postion in the house. But when out and about Tippy reclaims that position. If that makes sense. My male terrier, Cujo and male grandpup, Dexter, can do pretty much what they want and Kyrah barely bats an eye. But if Tippy were even thinking of doing part of something they may have Kyrah will check her. (meaning she looks at her differently, I dont exactly know how to explain it) But Kyrah is checking out Tippy to see what she is going to do. I recognize that look and make sure it doesnt esculate. Tippy also knows this checking and responds by avoiding. Once Tippy is gone Kyrah will be the only female that I will want at one time. The constant watchful eye I have to keep and the excitment level that needs to stay down is a constant burden of always being on guard. Thankfully I dont have to crate and rotate. When I am doing somethings like taking turns playing with squeaky toys I do crate them while I play with the other.
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Sadly, I think that The Crystal Ball section of the forum is down right now...

Yes, it is not unlikely that a male Doberman will have problems with your Feist, and possibly/probably with your Yorkshipe Terrier, as well. If it happens, it could happen fast... it is pretty obvious what the outcome would be.

The other issues I see are the physical safety of your littles living with a normal, exuberant, active large breed puppyidiot and also possibly quality of life issues for your elders living with same... young Dobermans can be stressful to live with, and elder dogs have earned their peace.

I can't tell you that this wouldn't work, but it is not a choice I think that I would make.
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You might not have problems until the Dobe hits maturity does not matter if the males are neutered or not they most likely would fight to the death. You already have a pack situation more than two dogs. If everyone is getting along now why add to the mix.? Hope you will reconsider.
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