But reward based training isn't all about cookies and hotdogs. They are reinforcer's for used for increasing frequency, intensity or duration of a behaviour during
A reward is after
the dog has completed
a specific action.
A reinforcer can be any motivational resource as can a reward.
You cannot force or use compulsion to do protection, just as you cannot force a dog to herd sheep. This being one of the main reasons not just any dog can do this phase. The dog has to love to do it. His reinforcement is the 'hope' and 'want' to take a bite and the reward is the bite itself and the relief of stress associated with it.
Using an ecollar or any other compulsion device isn't really forcing your dog to do anything anyway. The cessation of the pressure or force is what really teaches the dog, not the force itself and as such becomes a reinforcement, i.e it statistically increases the likelihood of the dog to emit the behaviour again when requested.
Obviously you know more about the subject of protection so I am not trying to teach you to suck eggs but as far as I can make out many people are moving away from the drive- force- drive principle and focusing on reinforcement and reward with both being 'the game' and the bite (which is reward in terms of relief of stress not unlike an avoidance behaviour)
Taking for example when dogs became first domesticated, this would have been completely reward based there is no way on earth humans just grabbed dogs and made them do stuff, they would have just done a runner first opportunity.
Regarding Kates comments, I have watch an old Pathe video of british army dog training and a similar thing is said in the video, I can't seem to find it now.
Yank and crank really took off with Barbara Woodhouse, this one has a few dobermans in it. Interestingly the doberman that she is 'yanking and cranking' isn't having none of it whereas all the other step right in line
Also I have a old training book Kath found (about 1920s-30's ?)whilst in a second hand book shop which is all about 'training with kindness, empathy and reward' If I can dig it out I will take some quotes from it.
A short and probably biased summary of dog training Re: reward training
1700s: Truffle hunters learn to give their dogs bread when they locate truffles, which turns out to be cheaper than using pigs which cannot be stopped from eating all the truffles they locate.
1885: S.T. Hammond, a writer for Forest and Stream magazine advocates in his columns and in a book entitled Practical Training, that dogs should be praised and rewarded with meat when they do something right.
1880s: Montague Stevens trains his New Mexico bear dogs by rewarding them with pieces of bread instead of beating and kicking them as others of that era were generally doing. Stevens is a famous bear hunter and friend of Teddy Roosevelt and the sculptor Frederic Remington.
1886: Edward Thorndike develops a theory of learning based on stimulus and response. Thorndike shows that "practice makes perfect" and that if reinforced with positive rewards, animals can learn quickly.
1899: The first canine school for police dogs is started in Ghent, Belgium using Belgian Shepherds, which had recently been established as a breed.
1903: Ivan Pavlov publishes his experiments with dogs and digestion, noting that animals can be trained to have a physical response to stimuli. Pavlov called this learning process "conditioning," and in 1904 he was awarded the Nobel Prize for his research.
1903: The Germans begin schutzhund work, a competition devoted to obedience, protection, tracking and attack work.
1907: Police begin patrolling New York City and South Orange, New Jersey with Belgian Shepherds and newly reconstructed Irish wolfhounds.
1915: Baltimore police begin using Airedales from England to patrol the streets. The police suspend use of Airedales in 1917 as the dogs had helped make no arrests. The police failed to notice that no robberies had occurred where the dogs were on patrol.
1915: Edwin Richardson trains dogs for the military during WWI using some positive reinforcement, and the dogs prove to be quick studies. Many dogs are used for communication and for guard duty.
1917: The Germans begin to formally use dogs to guide soliders blinded in mustard gas attacks. The French soon follow suit.
1918: U.S. Army Corporal Lee Duncans find an abandoned war dog station in Lorraine, France which has five young puppies in a kennel. Duncan takes one of the pups and names it "Rin Tin Tin" after the finger dolls that French children were giving to the soldiers at the time. The dog travels to California, proves easily trainable, and is soon employed making movies that are so successful it saves Warner Brothers studio from bankruptcy. The dog dies in 1932 in neighbor Jean Harlowe's arms, and is buried in Paris, but its descendents work in the movies throughout the 1950s, inspiring many people to try to train their own dogs to do simple tricks.
1925: One of the very first German-trained guide dogs for the blind is given to Helen Keller.
1926: Propelled in large part by the popularity of Rin Tin Tin, the German Shepherd population in the U.S. explodes, and by 1926 it accounts for 36 percent of all the dogs in the AKC -- 21,659 animals. Due to rapid inbreeding and poor selection, however, the American German shepherd quickly degenerates and is soon deemed inferior.
1929: Dorothy Harrison Eustis establishes the Seeing Eye Foundation to train guide dogs for the blind. Eustis goes to Switzerland to get a better stock of German Shepherds than she can find in America. This same year the AKC tries to ban the importation of foreign purebred dogs in order to protect domestic dog breeders, but the plan fails.
1930: About 400 dogs are employed as actors in Hollywood, the majority of them mongrel terriers which prove to be small enough for indoor scenes, rugged enough for outdoor scenes, and exceedingly smart.
1938: B.F. Skinner begins research into operant conditioning as a scientifically-based learning model for animals and humans. His special focus is on teaching pigeons.
1939: The AKC begins obedience competitions designed by Helen Whitehouse Walker who wants to prove that her standard poodles can do something other than eat food.
1942: The U.S. military says it needs 125,000 dogs for the war, and asks people to donate their large breeds. The military manages to train only 19,000 dogs between 1942 and 1945. The Germans reportedly had 200,000 dogs in service.
1943: In 1943, Marion Breland and her husband Keller Breland form a company called Animal Behavior Enterprises (ABE) to teach animals for shows. The Brelands had been students of B.F. Skinner (see 1938) and began teaching animals to peform tricks for shows and for commercial clients such as dog-food maker General Mills. They pioneer the use of a "clicker" to teach animals at a distance and to improve timing for affirmations and delayed rewards. The Brelands were the first people in the world to train dolphins and birds using operant conditioning.
1943: The movie "Lassie Comes Home" is filmed, featuring a purebred male collie playing the female staring role. Ironically, the U.S. military considered purebred (i.e., AKC ) collies so stupid that they were specifically excluded from military service in World War II, while herding farm collies were actively recruited.
1947: The Brelands (see 1943) begin using chickens as learning subjects with which to train other trainers, as they are cheap, readily available, and "you can't choke a chicken."
1953: Austrian animal behaviorist Konrad Lorenz writes "Man Bites Dog" and "King Solomon's Ring," books which popularize animal behaviorism.
1954: Baltimore reestablishes its police dog program, and today it remains the oldest police K-9 program in the country.
1960s: During the early part of the 1960s, Marian and Keller Breland (see 1943) were hired by the U.S. Navy to teach other animal trainers how to train dolphins. The Navy was interested in using dolphins to patrol harbors, retrieve lost gear, and guide bombs (i.e. "suicide bomber" dolphins). During their work with the Navy, the Breland's meet Bob Bailey, the Navy's first director of animal training, and they began a partnership with him. Keller Breland dies in 1965, and in 1976 Marian and Bob Bailey are married.
1962: William Koehler publishes "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" which becomes a staple of AKC obedience competitors. Though often criticized today, Koehler's methods are the core of a lot of effective dog training systems still in use.
1970s: The U.S. Customs Service begins to use dogs to detect drugs, and they are subsequently employed to sniff out explosives and fire-starting chemicals.
1978: Barbara Woodhouse publishes "No Bad Dogs" one of the first popular books on basic dog training. It relies heavily on proper use of a choke chain, and says most "bad dogs" have inexperienced owners who are not training their dogs properly by being consistent, firm and clear.
1984: The U.S. Dept. of Agriculture begins to use beagles to patrol airports for contraband food and other perishable items.
1985: Dolphin trainer Karen Pryor publishes Don't Shoot the Dog: the New Art of Teaching and Training which focuses on timing, positive reinforcements and shaping behavior, and draws heavily on the work of Marian Breland Bailey and Robert Bailey (see 1943 and 1960s). Her book promotes "clicker training" of dogs to improve timing and to allow trainers to communicate and "reward" their dogs from a distance.
1995: The U.S. Dept. of Agriculture begins using Jack Russell Terriers to locate and kill invasive brown tree snakes on the island of Guam.
2000 and beyond: Various cable television shows feature various dog training and rehabilitation methods. The notion that there are "new" and "old" dog training methods obscures the fact that ALL dog training methods involve some form of operant conditioning which is, in fact, pretty old stuff (as old as dogs). None of the dog training shows actually explain the core principles of operant conditioning or their relative worth in different training situations.
Things with humans go in cycles, when young generation bucks the methodology of the older generation as 'old garbage'
For instance the 'new modern preference for Malinois in police work is just a cycle as is shown in the above clipped history.
IMO Ceasar Milan nearly or could have ****ed things up as bad as Woodhouse if it wasn't for the likes of Victoria Stillwell, Zak George et al.
@ Asmit- All compulsion is dominance in core and clicker training was 'invented' in 1943.
Purely positive systems cannot work and don't exist. Simply by witholding the treat one is 'negatively punishing' the dog. It is to do with expectation.