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Ear Cartilage?

Elly is 6 months and 2 weeks old as of day, (26 weeks). She had her ears cut and posted at 9 weeks old, currently they are still posted. They are show crop. I usually remove the posting after a week or two depending on which style I do. Her ears stand perfectly for several days the one starts bending and I immediately post them back up. She lost all her baby teeth, she is on a well balanced diet. I give her "C" Vitamins, also. When do you think her ears will be fully developed with cartilage to have the ears stand? How long did it take your Dobies' ears to stand with show crop?

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is her right ear the problem ear?

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is her right ear the problem ear?
To be honest I don't remember which one always goes down first. Her ears have been posted for a week and I forgot which ear goes down.

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it looks weaker. in some of the pics you can see that the right post is already bent. They are looking nice though, so, just keep posting. sometimes massaging any thick cartilage areas will help bring blood to that area and hopefully will help strengthen it too. Does he 'use' his ears a lot naturally, good exercise for them.

just keep posting! i bet in a month or two they will be up!

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it looks weaker. in some of the pics you can see that the right post is already bent. They are looking nice though, so, just keep posting. sometimes massaging any thick cartilage areas will help bring blood to that area and hopefully will help strengthen it too. Does he 'use' his ears a lot naturally, good exercise for them.

just keep posting! i bet in a month or two they will be up!
Yes, when she walks around she pulls them up in alert mode a lot. I am not really worried about the muscle strength because she has no problem holding them in the 'correct' position. Its the cartilage part that I worry about. After a few days it just droops like a wilted flower, but the other one stays up. Thanks for being so positive!

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i had a young dog once that i had to tape just the one ear for over 2 months after the other one was standing perfectly.

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i had a young dog once that i had to tape just the one ear for over 2 months after the other one was standing perfectly.
I post both just to be safe. I'm looking forward for the next few months when her ears are done.

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We posted Gino's ears until he was 7 months old and then would use a single small strip of tape vertically on the ears for support.

I would not really call his a show crop or a medium crop, it's kind of between a medium and a show, if that makes any sense.

When we would take the tape off to let his ears breathe they did not droop out but inwards, really goofy looking too. I was relentless with it and was not about to give up on them either. I'm glad I did too because they stand really good now.

Something else to keep in mind also is that if you keep them posted for any length of time, check them for any foul or unusual odor. If you do smell something be sure and remove the posts and thoroughly check and clean the ears and let them air out before reposting them.

Good luck and stay at it, you will be glad you did.

PS: I forgot to compliment you on your girl, she is awesome looking!

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We posted Gino's ears until he was 7 months old and then would use a single small strip of tape vertically on the ears for support.

I would not really call his a show crop or a medium crop, it's kind of between a medium and a show, if that makes any sense.

When we would take the tape off to let his ears breathe they did not droop out but inwards, really goofy looking too. I was relentless with it and was not about to give up on them either. I'm glad I did too because they stand really good now.

Something else to keep in mind also is that if you keep them posted for any length of time, check them for any foul or unusual odor. If you do smell something be sure and remove the posts and thoroughly check and clean the ears and let them air out before reposting them.

Good luck and stay at it, you will be glad you did.

PS: I forgot to compliment you on your girl, she is awesome looking!
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Yes I am determined also to get her ears perfect. I have dealt with the foul smell before and I had to take them out and air them out for awhile. I think her ears measure 6 inches in length? I was sure I wanted show crop, my mother thought I was crazy for wanting them that long. I hope it pays off in the end.

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My boy came with a super long show crop (euro show) and we posted until he was just over seven months and used breathe right strips for a month after that. I only left the posts in for three or four days at a time. When I took them down it was only long enough to clean, stretch, massage, and dry them before re-posting. I tried very hard to never see them look wilted. I did notice that as soon as every one of his adult teeth were all the way in that his ears looked stronger immediately.

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My boy came with a super long show crop (euro show) and we posted until he was just over seven months and used breathe right strips for a month after that. I only left the posts in for three or four days at a time. When I took them down it was only long enough to clean, stretch, massage, and dry them before re-posting. I tried very hard to never see them look wilted. I did notice that as soon as every one of his adult teeth were all the way in that his ears looked stronger immediately.
She lost her first puppy tooth around 5 months and tonight I had to rip out the other one because her adult tooth was half way in and that one was lose but not coming out, so I had to take matters into my own hands before that tooth made a cavity or messed up the alignment of her adult tooth. I took some quick pictures tonight also, she wasn't in a picture mood because she wanted a cookie. lol
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. After a few days it just droops like a wilted flower, but the other one stays up.

This is your problem right here. Don't wait till it falls before reposting. Take 'em down in the AM and put them back up before bedtime. That gives plenty of time to clean them and let them air out some. You lose ground when you wait for it to drop before you re-post. Might make the difference between 7 months and 10 months and I'll bet you're getting pretty sick of it by now as it is.
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This is your problem right here. Don't wait till it falls before reposting. Take 'em down in the AM and put them back up before bedtime. That gives plenty of time to clean them and let them air out some. You lose ground when you wait for it to drop before you re-post. Might make the difference between 7 months and 10 months and I'll bet you're getting pretty sick of it by now as it is.
Thanks for the tip! Usually when I have to leave them air out for a few days is because the ear have gotten a sore on it. That's when they droop and I cannot do anything about it until the sore heals because I am trying to prevent infection. Yea I am getting tired of posting and reposting, but I know in the end I will be happy with the results. She has had her current posts in for a week right about now, I will probably wait until next weekend to change them. There is no foul smell. Her K-9 teeth are fully in. So I heard that usually speeds up the process of cartilage build up.

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