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I have been offered an Isabella puppy which I am told are quite rare. I was wondering if they are prone to any skin problems like the blue or any other health issues?
Would like to know what peoples experience and views are on the Isabella?
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Fawns are really not rare except in the fact most responsible breeders do not purposely breed for them - They are prone to CDA just like the blues are - and it my experience due to poor breeding they tend to have weaker immune systems and are prone to staph/yeast and allergies.

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Anyone trying to sell you one by advertising it as "rare" is certainly a backyard breeder trying to make more money. I would do some research and find a quality breeder instead.
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I have been offered an Isabella puppy which I am told are quite rare. I was wondering if they are prone to any skin problems like the blue or any other health issues?
Would like to know what peoples experience and views are on the Isabella?
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Isabella puppies aren't "Rare", they are dilutes and can come with skin issues that may require a lifetime of medication.

What do you mean offered? Do you mean someone would like to give you a free puppy, or they've offered to sell the puppy to you? If they want to sell you the puppy then walk away as fast as you can as the "Rare" comment is what greeders do to sell them. If you are being offered a free puppy then be prepared for a puppy that may end up having a poor coat and even possibly skin issues that will need vet care.

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I have one of those "rare" Isabella (fawn) Dobermans...who came from the pound.

This is a greeder marketing thing--don't buy into it.

And yes, at about age four she is nearly totally bald, has vitiligo, and is on a regimen to keep her skin issues under control.

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they are beautiful. the blue and the fawn. but the less they are produced, the better. so many of them suffer from secondary skin issues and hair loss from an early age. I have owned both colors. I would rescue one, but i would not buy one.

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Does anybody know why the isabella and the blue get skin conditions and hair loss?
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Fawns are really not rare except in the fact most responsible breeders do not purposely breed for them - They are prone to CDA just like the blues are - and in my experience due to poor breeding they tend to have weaker immune systems and are prone to staph/yeast and allergies.
I don't have any dilute experience but this makes a lot of sense to me as to why they would have skin and coat problems.

Even in a black or red you'll see skin and coat problems if they have a weak immune system and/or digestive trouble, both of which are more apt to appear through poor breeding practices. Dilutes tend to be purposefully produced by "breeders" who don't know and/or don't care what their dogs' health may be so they have no idea and/or don't care what the health of the pups they produce may be.

If you end up with a dilute from an ethical breeder, cool. You'll likely still eventually have some skin/coat issues but you'll have a good breeder backing you and offering support and guidance. But I personally would never seek out a dilute from someone breeding their pets (or a puppy mill) whose sole intention was to produce dilutes and sell them as "rare".

Good for you for wanting to be educated on the matter.




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Does anybody know why the isabella and the blue get skin conditions and hair loss?
Isabella is diluted red and blue is diluted black, they are not seperate colors so to say.

Color dilution alopecia is a rare, hereditary canine skin disorder. This disease affects dogs with fawn or blue coats. Genetic irregularities in the transfer and storage of melanin, the pigment that gives color to skin and fur, are responsible for this condition.
Melanosomes may clump within melanocytes of the skin and hair follicles, causing the hair shafts to easily fracture


Canine Color Dilution Alopecia Treatment | eHow.com

Color Dilution Alopecia

Canine follicular dysplasia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Polymorphisms within the canine MLPH gene are associated with dilute coat color in dogs
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Thank you for all the advice and information I received. It has been very helpful.
Although the Isabella is a stunning colour I have decided against owning one and opting for a black/tan instead.
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I think that's a great decision. I hope you do a lot of research so you can find an ethical breeder.
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I would LOVE to have a fawn Dobe. I have had every recognized color but that. My blue was from a BYB and had coat issues but not nearly as bad as some I have seen. What he lacked in coat he made up for a thousand fold in other attributes.

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Thank you for all the advice and information I received. It has been very helpful.
Although the Isabella is a stunning colour I have decided against owning one and opting for a black/tan instead.
Thanks again.

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I have been offered an Isabella puppy which I am told are quite rare. I was wondering if they are prone to any skin problems like the blue or any other health issues?
Would like to know what peoples experience and views are on the Isabella?
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you can not use flea drops, that will burn the "saddle" on the dogs back. I had an Isabella that was with me almost 17 years. He was by-far the smartest most gentle dog Ive ever known. Other than that Wizard never had any skin problems.
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you can not use flea drops, that will burn the "saddle" on the dogs back. I had an Isabella that was with me almost 17 years. He was by-far the smartest most gentle dog Ive ever known. Other than that Wizard never had any skin problems.
Um. Huh?

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Um. Huh?
I think he means that OTC flea stuff you squeeze out of the tubes and is absorbed through the skin.

No idea if that would or wouldnt case a reaction, but I wouldn't let Leo or Mac touch that stuff with a barge pole.

I <3 Fawns!

A dilute who never had ANY coat problems AND lived to 17. Doberman powerball on that one?

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