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My Doberman Wont Eat!!! Need Help!!

I am a first time Doberman owner I am 24 years old. I have had my doberman since he was a puppy. He is a red and rust male from the Di Altobello blood line. He has never really ate regularly. He is now 1 year and 8 months old he only weighs 68 lbs and is only 26 inches tall. He has weighed 68-70 lbs for the last 10 months and is not gaining any weight he actually lost 2 lbs. He is not eating normally he skips the morning meal all the time and often skips night meals. I have feed him solid gold large breed, canadae, orijen, call of the wild, evo, and blue buffalo and he doesnt seem to like any of them. He will eat them for a couple of days and stop. I leave his food out for 15-20 mins and pick it up and that hasn't help either. He is still very active though, but you can see his ribs and even his spin. The one food he does go crazy for is my friends chocolate lab food which is pedigree. Every time we are at his house and my friend is feeding his dog my dog wants to eat his food. I need help because I don't want to feed him pedigree. Any Advise?
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There are a couple really good threads here on DT about picky eaters. see if you can pull any of them up with the search function. The "tough love" approach (picking up food after a few minutes) usually gets the message across so I'm surprised it hasn't worked for you. Just out of curiosity is your dog still intact?
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I am a first time Doberman owner I am 24 years old. I have had my doberman since he was a puppy. He is a red and rust male from the Di Altobello blood line. He has never really ate regularly. He is now 1 year and 8 months old he only weighs 68 lbs and is only 26 inches tall. He has weighed 68-70 lbs for the last 10 months and is not gaining any weight he actually lost 2 lbs. He is not eating normally he skips the morning meal all the time and often skips night meals. I have feed him solid gold large breed, canadae, orijen, call of the wild, evo, and blue buffalo and he doesnt seem to like any of them. He will eat them for a couple of days and stop. I leave his food out for 15-20 mins and pick it up and that hasn't help either. He is still very active though, but you can see his ribs and even his spin. The one food he does go crazy for is my friends chocolate lab food which is pedigree. Every time we are at his house and my friend is feeding his dog my dog wants to eat his food. I need help because I don't want to feed him pedigree. Any Advise?
Yes he stops eating (look in bold) because he is demanding better food... you spoiled him!
68lbs is very normal for 26" tall Doberman. Is he intact?


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no he is not intact

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How about some pics of the guy? 68lbs might be a good weight for him.


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My girl is picky too. I'm considering switching her to raw because its the only thing I've ever seen her eat with gusto. Kibble...she can take it or leave it. And I've done the tough love thing. She doesn't care. She knows the bowl gets picked up the second she walks off and she's fine with that because it seems she's just done when she walks away, no matter whether its after the 3rd bite or half a bowl. The only reason I haven't switched her to raw yet is because I want to make sure I do it right so I'm researching it pretty good beforehand.

Good luck with your boy. I know it sucks to see them ignore their food!




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Yup we had a Dobe that could take or leave kibble, tough love didn't work and she would go for days without eating, or just let the other dogs eat her food (she wasn't motivated by competition to eat). We tried a few different things to make her eat, in the end a good kibble soaked in water for awhile and mixed with something tasty (gravy, My Beau dog supplement, fish oil, pet mince, oily fatty stuff from the bottom of the roast pan etc) worked well. Because she ate a mushy food we had to be very watchful of her teeth health and she got a lot of raw meaty bones and chicken carcasses to keep 'em clean. Switching to raw could also work! I've never had a dog turn down some stinky, tasty raw organs


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I have tried Nupro dog supplements, and that makes like a gravy and put it on top of his food and he still didnt eat it. I have tried mixing wet food in his kibble but he still doesnt like it. when you say raw food what exactly would you feed him?
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First thing I would do is take him to the vet and get a complete blood count done, I actually run one on my dogs every year during their annual check-ups. It's most likely that he needs to be taught to eat but I'd sure rule out anything health related first.

If his health checks out then put the food you have chosen for him down and leave it for 10 minutes and pick it up if not all eaten. Don't feed him anything for 12 hours and repeat, keep the routine up until he eats. Once he starts eating he may try you again but just do the same, don't give in to him. This behavior is pretty common in young Dobe males. I don't add little goodies or switch foods around either. Pick a good food and just teach the dog to eat. Oh. until he learns to eat no treats either.

I would guess he's eating the food at your friends house because of the competition with the other dog. The longer it's been going on the longer it will take to fix. I've heard, fortunately never had one, that some bloodlines have pretty severe eating disorders too. Hopefully that's not the case with your boy.


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Go raw. it's the best.

See my diary on when I switched my girl to raw (she was 12 weeks when I made the switch and she's now over a year. Going raw was the best thing I ever did).

do a search - 'diary - switichng my puppy to raw'. you should find it.

good luck whatever you decide.

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Can you show us a picture with better light? He doesn't look all that bad to me but i can't really see the side with the ribs. At 19 months old, Silas is 72.25 inches and 73 lbs and could probably lose a pound.

I would just second Robin's advice as far as the eating goes - vet first to be sure (esp. since you say he has lost weight), then be more consistent and meaner. if he walks away from his food, pick it up. Don't give him the full 10 minutes (which is a long time) if he's not showing interest. Stay consistent and it should get better if he has no other underlying health issues. I think you are worrying (which is understandable) but you could be feeding into his pickiness by catering to him. If you add anything to his food, fish oil would be good for his coat and health anyway, and has an appealing odor. (To dogs at least.)

My husky mix, when she was younger, would frequently skip breakfast. If I put a bowl of food down, it was immediately evident if she would eat or not. If she was going to eat, she would do so right away. If not, she would walk away and I'd pick the food up. Her weight was always fine, and my vet assured me she was OK as long as she was maintaining her weight. She would not skip two meals in a row, however.

She always eats better when there's another dog around - again, like Robin said - competition is probably more the culprit than the food itself.

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I add 1 tbs ACV (apple cidar vinegar) to my boy food twice a day to keep his PH level balanced after he got yeast ears infections. I read it might increase your dog appetite.
It won't hurt your dog for sure You may add to his drinking water. I feed raw and add to his meals.
It should be raw unfiltered ACV... I buy Bragg's ACV.

How to Use Apple Cider Vinegar for Dogs - wikiHow
"Use apple cider vinegar to aid your dog's digestion. You don't need to rush to the vet's for expensive dog digestive products. Instead, add a teaspoon to a large bowl of water daily. This will increase your dog's appetite, as well as balancing the pH levels of the dog's body. Apple cider vinegar will help improve diarrhea episodes and can fix constipation in a dog with repeated use."


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Silas is 72.25 inches and 73 lbs and could probably lose a pound.
I am thinking that Silas is NOT 72" tall . At 19 months my boy is 28" and 87 pounds.

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I am thinking that Silas is NOT 72" tall . At 19 months my boy is 28" and 87 pounds.
LOL! Good pickup avianantics! Silas would be the tallest Doberman ever at that height!
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It's easy to guess... Silas is 27.25"


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I am thinking that Silas is NOT 72" tall . At 19 months my boy is 28" and 87 pounds.

Well, I didn't want to spill the beans, as it's kind of top secret, but Michelle is now producing a new line of Dobermans. They are called King-of-all-King-Extra-Ginormous-Warlock Dobermans. (Solely for those who want a TRUE extra-testosteroned protector.)

Because it's so hush-hush, I have cleverly photoshopped all my past pictures to make him look smaller than he actually is.

I guess you caught me - the secret is now out. I hope Michelle doesn't get too upset with me.


P.S. - his true weight is 273 lbs. Hopefully he'll fill out a little more and hit 300.

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OP said he will eats the friends pedigree food though??

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Yes he stops eating (look in bold) because he is demanding better food... you spoiled him!
68lbs is very normal for 26" tall Doberman. Is he intact?

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Eats the pedigree when the lab is eating there next to him....

I think most kids would choose junk food over healthy too, but we don't let them make that call because it's not as good for them long-term.

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first lemme say to bean HAHAHAHAHA that got me rollin. love it! about the 300 lb doberman that is. i would hook up a chariot and ride it! just think of a 300 lb dober slobber fest! YUK

my boy was a terrible eater, but when i switched to canidae and blue buffalo none of my dogs would touch it, they resorted to trash scavenging, eating the neighbors cat food, knocking my cats food down and lots and lots of horse poop.they hated it! even after months of tough love. oh the gas and diarrhea was everywhere.

ew pedigree...can you say dandruff, gas, and runny stools? that will cause a great dobe to look like crap. corn puffs and food coloring is all you got there
oh and i put garlic powder on my dogs food, and sometimes a little water, that got them eating the cali naturals with gusto
i agree with everyone above, A) a pic showin his ribs would be great go to tinypic.com, upload one in the size you want and post the img data
B)try raw, i've never seen my dogs look better and oh my gosh it was likin feedin piranhas when the chicken quarters came out, go to dobertalk search and look up the links on raw feeding, lotsa great links all throughough here, i feed raw 3 times a week at least and then california naturals the rest of the time. the competition of tator getting vince's food has now made him decide he was gonna eat like a good boy. he wolfs it now and therefore now hes fat and happy


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Well, I didn't want to spill the beans, as it's kind of top secret, but Michelle is now producing a new line of Dobermans. They are called King-of-all-King-Extra-Ginormous-Warlock Dobermans. (Solely for those who want a TRUE extra-testosteroned protector.)

Because it's so hush-hush, I have cleverly photoshopped all my past pictures to make him look smaller than he actually is.

I guess you caught me - the secret is now out. I hope Michelle doesn't get too upset with me.


P.S. - his true weight is 273 lbs. Hopefully he'll fill out a little more and hit 300.
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thanks everyone I will try raw and see how that works with him.
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your dog will love the raw. Just start with a small amount of chicken.
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