Euro Dobies / American Dobie

tines28 · 08-01-2006, 06:07 AM

What are the differences?

**velmadobe** · 08-01-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tines28

What are the differences?

The Europeans spell Doberman with two nn's and have dropped the Pinscher. Their standard allows for a Doberman to be longer than it is tall (not square), and a 1/2 inch taller than the American standard. Other than that, they are both Dobermans:-)

**brumwolf** · 08-01-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by velmadobe

The Europeans spell Doberman with two nn's and have dropped the Pinscher. Their standard allows for a Doberman to be longer than it is tall (not square), and a 1/2 inch taller than the American standard. Other than that, they are both Dobermans:-)

THAT IS THE BEST ANSWER I HAVE EVER SEEN TO THAT QUESTION.
Top marks go to Velmadobe!!!

Okie-dobie · 08-01-2006, 08:10 AM

I agree good answer!!!

**LeighaG81** · 08-01-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by velmadobe

The Europeans spell Doberman with two nn's and have dropped the Pinscher. Their standard allows for a Doberman to be longer than it is tall (not square), and a 1/2 inch taller than the American standard. Other than that, they are both Dobermans:-)

Great post. I never knew that was what the difference was!

**Lexus** · 08-01-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by velmadobe

The Europeans spell Doberman with two nn's and have dropped the Pinscher. Their standard allows for a Doberman to be longer than it is tall (not square), and a 1/2 inch taller than the American standard. Other than that, they are both Dobermans:-)

You get a sticker for that answer!! Great job!!! And you hit the nail on the head!!!

zedemar · 08-01-2006, 12:45 PM

You did forget to mention that the American standard allows several missing teeth.

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And that fawn and blues allowed for breeding.

Zucker · 08-01-2006, 02:31 PM

lol, and here I thought... here we go again... nice one Velma

tines, also euro dobes come only in black and brown. I suggest you use the search function, you should be able to come up with a few american vs. euro discussions

zedemar · 08-01-2006, 03:26 PM

There was a question asked and a answer given, with much applouse from different members. Sadly the answer was not the whole truth.
Why is this? I know that you know better.
If you do not want members from continental Europe, just tell, I will leave you allone immediately. I am not here to stirr some Euro vs US dobe stuff.
But I do not accept the sidekicks against the european dogs.
So if you would like a honest discussion, just be honest.

**velmadobe** · 08-01-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zedemar

There was a question asked and a answer given, with much applouse from different members. Sadly the answer was not the whole truth.
Why is this? I know that you know better.
If you do not want members from continental Europe, just tell, I will leave you allone immediately. I am not here to stirr some Euro vs US dobe stuff.
But I do not accept the sidekicks against the european dogs.
So if you would like a honest discussion, just be honest.

Of course the answer was not the whole truth........I could have posted both standards, but what would it have proven? The little minute details that differentiate what is essentially the same breed??

Yes, the FCI standard has a DQ for missing teeth and the USA standard allows up to 4.........it is not as if a European Doberman never has a missing tooth, and in reality a missing tooth here is pretty much the end of a show career. For that matter, blues and fawns do occur in Europe.......they just seem to send them here, not register them, or heaven forbid cull them so that no one knows that their dog carries dilution. We just accept the fact that they are Dobermans and are not an albino so they are an acceptable color. Reputable breeders do not breed for them because of the coat issues.

They are Dobermans whether you spell it with 1 n or 2. Each continent produces its share of good ones, bad ones, and everything in between. In my original post, I never said a bad word about European Dobermans......just stated some of the differences in the standards and the name. We all get tired of people asking the differences. I see way too many websites looking to make a buck off of the "Euro Dobe" gimmick. The people out there who are breeding reputable European line Dobermans are few and far between.