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The Doberman color "red" (or if you are European, "brown") covers a huge range of colors as others have already pointed out. That would range from bright copper to vary dark brown with only a trace of red--but they are still genetically "red" or "brown".
I haven't seen one in years but Judy Doniere (a long time Dobe breeder and all breed judge) and I used to talk about the Dobes that we used to see occasionally in the 50's, 60's and 70's which were a very dark brown with very light eyes (yellow usually) and large light tan markings. The coat itself was very coarse, almost wire feeling to the touch. She and I had a theory about these dogs--they tended to be quite ugly and we saw fewer and fewer of them over the years--I haven't seen one in years--they really lacked merit as a specimen of a Dobe and we thought that people simply weren't inclined to use them for breeding stock (thank heavens) and eventually that particular coat color washed out of the gene pool.
Ugly though it was it technically still was "red".