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when to neuter/ controlling bowe

Hi all. I have a 5 month old boy who seems to be scared sh**less of everything. He gets carsick, which I understand, and will sometimes throw up. Right when we get out of the car he squats and empties his bowels as if he has no control over it. It is extremely watery every time, this also happens when I take him for walks. He will randomly stop during the walk and have this same watery poo. I notice that he will do it when we walk by people that he decides he "doesn't trust", but also at random times during the walk. I can only assume it is a fear reaction to new things?(which aren't actually new at all)

Will this go away with time? Is there anything I can do to avoid these moments? Will letting him keep his balls for a while longer make him come of of his shell and be less of a sissy?

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Has he ever experienced a traumatic event? I wonder if there is an underlying medical problem. Does he have normal poops at home? What food does he eat?
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Extreme anxiety and/or causes loose bowels. Your description of the pup as a "sissy" indicates you are seeing plenty of fear/anxiety body language. Labeling his behavior in this negative way indicates you have little understanding and/or sympathy or your pup's real issues.

You need a good trainer ASAP to help you learn how to train with positive rewards. The trainer should help you develop a plan of training. It will take a lot of sincere effort on your part to HELP this puppy overcome the fear issues.

See a vet immediately to rule out any health issues and insist on a full thyroid panel. Dobermans do get early nose thyroid problems. Please understand he is still a BABY and stop labeling him with negative words like "sissy".

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Someone told me that he may have been taken from his mother too early. Also, when we got him he was very skinny and had bite marks on his head, probably other puppies fighting over the food bowl.
His poops at home are healthy /solid. He eats blue buffaloo.

He listens very well and is eager to please. I try to keep him distracted and in those moments he is fine. A few moments later he ”remembers" how scary the world is and ends up with the watery stool.
The vet said he checks out and that he is just scared, he also mentioned that car sickness may make the problem slightly worse.

Don't be so seen sensitive, I call him a sissy because that is a good way to describe his behavior. It obviously got the point across.
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You got your point across very well between the sissy comment and the question about keeping his testicles. MY point is that learning to key into his body language and use appropriate words to describe it will go a long way toward being able to accurately descibe exactly what is going on with your pup. THAT THEN LEADS TO TRAINING ADVICE.

Here is a GREAT website with short videos on canine body language. Please check it out. It also has some links to training info based on what you might be seeing in your pup.

Dog Body Language Posts and Videos | eileenanddogs

I would not be taking him on car rides, getting him sick, then adding further stress by forcing him into the situations that are scaring him. IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT A CAR RIDE IS NOW A HUGE PREDICTOR OF WORSE THINGS TO COME! You have a complex set of training challenges that requires some training assistance ASAP!! Post where you live and you might get a good trainer recommendation. Please stop putting this pup "over threshhold" until you get help. He is really suffering when you do that, as indicated by the extreme loose bowels. Keep us posted and we'd love photos.

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Thanks for the link. I'm getting such different opinions on this. Most people are saying that i just need to keep bringing him around people and introducing him to new places. Your take on this makes sense to me, but I guess I agree with both sides.

I don't think he associates the car with anything negative.(Besides car sickness) He actually willingly goes to the car and seems excited, because he knows we're going to the park. Maybe he's overwhelmed once he gets there and gets scared... But after the initial poo, he just runs around and acts like a normal happy dog.
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Okay, you are giving lots of mixed information here. At first you say he is scared of everything. Now you say he runs around the park like a normal happy dog.

You need to be really precise with your observation or you can't help this dog. The best thing to do would be to keep a log of exactly what is going on around him when he shows the fear behaviors. You will want to study the link I gave you, look at all the videos a couple of times, so that you can note exactly what behaviors your pup is showing when he sees people, when when he gets close to things that seem to throw him off of his normal behavior, whenever he seems to be startled or upset about anything. As soon as possible when you get back home from taking him out create a set of notes in the log about what was going on when he seemed startled, upset, or fearful. Make notes about his exact behaviors.

He may also have severe motion sickness so try traveling with him in a crate with a sheet completely covering the crate so that he cannot see the world around him moving. I have had to do this for one of my dogs until he was around a year old when the motion sickness got much better.

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Gambit does this when really excited. When ever we are at the dog park his poops are always watery. As soon as we leave and get back home everything is back to normal. Never does this any where but the dog park and I have always chalked it up to over stimulation.
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