reddobeluva

Well I have shared stupidness on here before about the head swelling thing and one person dog, and lock jaw, and raw feeding causing aggression. But this time the stories really scared me....because I have heard of it before. Never put any stock in them though, because after all they were just stories.

Yesterday, I was dog talking per usual with a local store cashier....she was telling me about how her older daschund is getting aggressive and it makes her worry. She knows I have a doberman....I dont know how it came up but she said she had a relative that had a doberman and that it had turned on its owner. OK strange things happen...it is a dog...one doesnt mean all.

Later that same day, I hear the almost exact same story from a different person in a different location. Coincidence? It freaked me out! What are your thoughts on this? Have you all heard this before? Had experiences? Input please!!!!

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zeus and me

I think large dogs of any breed are not ment to be owned by push overs. a whimpy owner could very well get bit by any dog large or small....but people take notice when a large dog bites.

all dogs need training! and most owners need it also.

then since we have no idea what brought the dog to bite???? manybe it was abused....who knows....but dogs dont just turn on owners in my opinion....doberman or any other breed.

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Murreydobe

I think dobermans are no different from any other breed whose drives/instincts produce an animal more dominant, with higher potential for aggression than many other breeds.

Put these dogs in a home with people who have minimal leadership skills, who fail to draw lines in the sand about acceptable behavior, and it's quite possible they'll eventually try to bite their owner, when the owner tries to get them to do something they don't want to do.

Put them in a home where people provide training and strong leadership skills, and it's never an issue.


So yes..some dobermans do "turn on their owners" when breeders put them in the hands of people who don't have the skills to cope with them. But really-there are usually warning signs every step of the way, it's not an "out of the blue" situation.

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MY69RS

What makes me a little concerned sometimes is at what is play and is ok and when should you step in to stop. I really dont mind my two playing a little rough but i dont want it to get to a bad point.

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Murreydobe

I think you just have to go by the intensity level they're operating at, and know your dogs well enough to know when it's time to step in.

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avalonandon

Zeus and Me and Murreydobe totally nailed it in my opinion.

Fact of the matter is, far more children turn on their parents or society than any single dog breed does. You learn what you are doing and raise your children properly. If you dont, then look the hell out. And even then, occasionally, that isnt enough.

And quite frankly, from what I have seen, it is infinitely more easy to properly train and control a dog than it is most kids, lol. So what do we do, ban kids? lol. But dogs are expendable right? (not). So we dont feel the pressing need to invest properly in them to avoid calamity. Imo, this is at the heart of bsl.

Crow

Dogs do not simply "turn". If a normally well-tempered dog of any breed* suddenly becomes aggressive towards its owner (or anyone else) there are only ever one of two explanations:

1) A medical problem. Just as with humans, brain tumours, strokes, and various other health issues can produce personality and behavioural changes. So too can pain.

2) In some extreme circumstances, a dog can become so terrified that it may, out of sheer panic, react aggressively to any approach even by its own owner.

* exceptions being little git breeds like terriers who are frequently 'orrible little objects if they don't want to do something and you make them do it.

More often, when an owner says their dog has "turned" what this really means is that the owner has failed to recognise and deal effectively with a long-running dominance or other issue with the dog. The situation eventually culminates in aggression. Saying that the dog has suddenly "turned" is the owner's way of denying their own responsibility for the dog's behaviour. It makes it all the dog's fault.

Such owners are particularly fond of claiming that the dog inexplicably "turned" when it's attacked someone else.

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faber

I'm really afraid of mine...he may snuggle and lick me to death in the middle of the night....

crash97

Any dog large or small needs to know it's place. They're not alpha, the handler is.

Debbie

oh my goodness.... how many of you have watched Cesar Millan on TV? I can`t say that those dogs biting the owners were ever a doberman. As some have stated before me its a weak leadership issue.... think of his show, those dogs ranged from mutts to purebred big and small dogs. Its not the doberman, its the weak owner, and on Cesar's show its a weak owner every time.

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