JennSLK

So I finally conviced John to go to agility class last night, against his will.

Wel he told me when we got home that he wants a dog for himself. A male black/rust stud prospect. He said he would take it to taining. Wow. I almost choked. He's always saying that all the training I do with Emma is alot of money.

This is great. Im actualy really excited. He said he wants one in a year because we will have our own place by then.

Here's were it gets interesting. I told him about Nello's Lex Luther because he's in Jazz's pedigree. Well, he wants a dog from them. A lex Luther son, talk about aiming high. I told him I would e-mail them and get some more info on their breeding program and such, wich I did. Im just waiting for a reply. Has anyone delt with them or knows someone who delt with them? What are they like?

Okie-dobie

Sorry I don't know anything about this breeder. When do you bring Jazz home?

JennSLK

On the 10th of April. But we wont bring another dog home fore about a year after Jazz

Okie-dobie

Lucky you.

Lexus

I'm going to give this a shot, do what you will with it....

As a mention of advice JennSLK, planning a third dog when you don't even yet have the second and the first is still really a puppy with her own problems, you are setting yourself up for trouble. I know you say that it is going to be your boyfriend's dog, but that really is a moot point. It will be living in the same house as the other two pups.

Being that you plan on showing, getting another pup when the first two aren't finished or even fully trained is just really not even fair to the other dogs. In all fairness, esp, to the dobe pup on the way, she will not be even fully trained or set by the time another pup is coming into her household.

That pup is going to bond with your other two dogs, more than you. It's attention will be on them over you. (or your boyfriend, as you say it is for him, which is even less fair to him, being a novice, not that you are experienced, but I'd bet he is even less so). Training will be harder with the more dogs you have in the household, especially young ones. And training is all the time, everyday, not just when you go to class.

If I were you, I'd take the time to really work through and train what you have now. You have the pup coming in, whatever the wisdom in that decision is, give that pup and the one you have the attention and training so they can have the best start possible, and you will have the best chance possible at succeeding with it in the show ring.

Now you are saving for the down payment on a house in a year, BUT do you know what the expense is for three dogs? Especially show expenses on top of regular care? And dobermans eat more than a beagle, so a good high quality kibble for three dogs, probable supplements, medical upkeep, not to mention any health problems that seem to pop up when you least expect it. I have three large dogs I know the cost. And I work so much that I would have loved to have Lex titled in OB by now, but my schedule doesn't permit it. Heartworm preventative alone keeps me from buying a new car

I don't know what the two of you do for a living, but I remember being your age, in our first apartment, and yikes, there is no way I could pay for all that. I hope your young fiancée has a pretty lucrative job lined up out of high school, then if he does, where does he get the time for training and possible showing of a young dog?

You'll of course want to make sure that your new house has a fenced in yard with three dogs, esp the beagle being how beagles can be, mine is just a little fenced area filled with pea gravel so there is no mud, my cost on that was about $850 - $950 not to mention the labor we supplied. Maybe you'll be lucky enough to find a house with the yard already fenced, doubt it though, as you can't walk away from a good house within a good price range in a good neighborhood b/c it doesn't have a fence.

Don't take offense to this, I, with other's I'm sure, just want to you really think this through before committing and spending more money than you have already put out, and giving your future dogs the best life and chances possible.

I adopted my second dog (a year old), when the first one was 3, I brought in the third dog was the second one was 5. And my third dog is now two. And it is still a challenge to have all three. And I'm only formally training one of them! Let your two mature. Get your titles on them, then see where you want to go from there.

I don't know anything about that breeder you mentioned, but I don't know anything about a lot of them. But if in fact it is a high caliber reputable breeder, chances are you aren't going to qualify for a dog anyway given your situation. I'm surprised the breeder you picked now is giving you a pup, but when you spoke of the breeding rights, I guess it all clicked for me.

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Okie-dobie

Could not have said it better Lexus !!!!

Okie-dobie

I should add that I have to wonder why you don't seem really, really excited to bring home Jazz. You have talked more about getting other pups then the one you will be getting on April 10. I just don't get it.

doberkim

very good point okie - if i was getting a puppy in 2 weeks all i would be thinking abou tis THAT dog - not what OTHER dogs i could be getting in a year from now! hell, ive been waiting for a puppy for 4 years now, and im STILL not definitely getting one (though i have found a wonderful breeder, plus tw more that i kinda like!).


Jenn, do you know how much it actually COSTS to show a dog? or even fully train one? i have spent THOUSANDS on classes for my ONE dog, and i have spent over a thousand bucks just getting ONE title on him (and he got that title in THREE straight trials). do you know how much entry fees are, travel/gas, how much you spend at the show, etc?

i have no idea why you are so intent on talking about what breeder your (or your hubby - if you live together, it will belong to BOTH of you and you will share in the care) - next dog will be coming from. you have one coming in 2 weeks - enjoy her and let her grow up and get trained, etc - before you even consider getting another one.

i will say this - no *RESPONSIBLE* breeder will give you a puppy in a year. if one of them does offer to give you one, IMHO, they are not a responsible breeder. i would not place a doberman puppy in a household with 2 other dogs that are still so young (a beagle that is barely over 2, and a doberman that is just about 1).

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Murreydobe

The whole scenario just keeps getting more and more strange all the time.
We have someone who hasn't even proven they're a good long term doberman OWNER thinking about "stud prospects"...I'm just getting a very strong vibe this is a mini puppy mill in the making.

JennSLK

I am fully aware that it wil be a challenge. It's not like we will be doing it alone.

I will be going down to casual work in April. Wich meens I work as much or as little as I want. Depending on the training schedual

I am insulted you think we are still in High School. Rght now we live in a 3 bedroom townhouse and are moving to rent a house in May. Yes he has a well paying job. He is an experiance Granite/Tile/Marble setter. He only works 8am - 3pm. I worked 630am-630pm and still had time to train. He will have the time and the money

I know. It is going to be 6foot high solid wood with locked gates. It's bugeted for.

I do see you points. But I am not even going to put a disposit down on a pup for a YEAR. It's not like I am getting one now


Did you ever think that maybe he trusts me and has seen the work I put in at handling classes on HIS dogs so that I can learn to do it properly?!