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#1 ·
Hey guys, it's been a long time since I posted here. My boy baron died on Easter Sunday. He was perfectly fine nothing strange at all came in from using the potty, jumped up on my lap, gave me a bunch of kissed and let out a cry and dropped dead at my feet. It was the one of the hardest things that has happen to me as he was a awesome and perfect representation of our beloved breed. And he was my son. A few weeks past and I just was so lonely with a dobie companion. I contacted cara dobermans and he, as a good breeder would, told me that the waiting list was long and even though I was on the list wouldn't guarantee me a pup. Me and my wife just could not wait for another boy. Now here comes the part where y'all rip me a new behind, lol. I went to kimbertal for my new boy. Ouch, I know. I knew full and well they are a puppy mill but needed my dobie companion. I went there with my wife and spent an hour and a half playing with the litter. When we found the one most comparable with us we bought him. They weren't ready for me I must say. I drilled the heck out of them and wanted to know all about his parents, g parents Etc. got to meet his sire, rio od stevanovica, and dam is black diamond (not much info on her of course lol) pretty good looking dog. His dad was maxim di albotello. Now I know about these places so no need to scold me, lol but good sire and g pop non the less. So now we have our boy rōnin and he is a great boy so far. His first vet visit went well, she said he is super healthy and just as a precaution gonna get a full cardio work up when he's one. Taking him to jmac to start his obedience training in a few weeks also. He learns fast. Already got his sit command down. Anyway, the kennel was well maintained and the staff were awesome and patient. I know what they are about and wish I didn't have to support them but it was a spur of the moment need. I just tell myself I'm gonna give this dog the best life he can have as an expireanced dobie owner.. Ill keep y'all updated with his progress.
 

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Yes I know maxim was his g daddy, lol.. I know guys, I felt horrible but there was no pups in the rescues and I absolutely could not wait for a new boy. I will promise to give him a great life, I prolly saved him from some newb wanting a cool done then find out they are too much to handle, lol. Def not looking for a congrats I knew what I was doing. Just couldn't be without a dobie and def couldn't wait a year or two. But non the less, I got a good tempered boy and a clean bill of health so far, we shall see how it goes.
 
#8 ·
you know...

this infuriates me. you know when i lost my boy? IN DECEMBER. and i'm waiting, because it's the right thing to do. sure, i could go to the puppy store and buy a poorly bred dog that will probably have a shorter lifespan and have temperament issues, but i have self control...like any responsible adult should.

i'm just so bloody angry that you can sit here and LAUGH about this decision you've made, knowing that Kimbertal is an awful breeder.

ugh.
 
#9 ·
Yeah I know but in my mind it comes down to saving a dobie from some newb wanting a cool dog and then giving him up a year later. I expect scolding and no I could not wait for a new boy, my house was so dead without a Lively boy. Hate me as y'all may but I will give this dog an awesome life..
 
#12 ·
I was more upset then when my dad died for real. Look, I know puppy mills are frowned upon and I totally agreed but when it came down to it, I wanted to save a dobie from a potentially horrible life. People don't know what to expect from a dobie. I do. I hope he lives a good long life, not like baron who died at 5 from a private breeder with a solid bloodline.
 
#26 ·
I was more upset then when my dad died for real. Look, I know puppy mills are frowned upon and I totally agreed but when it came down to it, I wanted to save a dobie from a potentially horrible life. People don't know what to expect from a dobie. I do. I hope he lives a good long life, not like baron who died at 5 from a private breeder with a solid bloodline.
Sorry about the loss of Baron, but you went about filling the hole he left in the wrong way. You "saved" your puppy. So you saved one. ONE. What about all the others they have that are nothing but puppy factories? What about every bitch they offer for "free after you breed her twice and practically give us the litters"? Your puppy probably came from one of those very bitches.
 
#13 ·
An I saved him in a way.. I totally expected this beat down but it's ok. I share the same love for the breed as you.. Lets celebrate a dobie and his new life rather than focus on the man behind the curtain.
 
#14 ·
This is just so sad. I'm sorry that you lost your beloved boy BUT.........

Don't you realize that you betrayed him and his noble breed by supporting Kimbertal of all GREEDERS? You admit that you saw all of those Dobermans living on concrete but all you can say to justify is that the concrete is clean? Yes I know, they have runs as well but the dogs live a kennel life, not the way your beloved boy lived in your home. I have no doubt that you would have found a well bred puppy within a month or two if you did your homework better and were willing to travel a bit for your next puppy. What a shame that someone who really knew better would do this. My sympathy for your loss is diminished.
 
#28 ·
Unfortunate and disappointing. I took me years to get over my first Dobie... I couldn't imagine betraying his memory by attempting to replace him immediately
I adopted Trooper from Dobe rescue real quick after the loss of my last dobe. I don't consider it betraying his memory at all, I see it more as honouring the love I had for him & the breed by passing that love on to the next dobe. I can fully understand the OP's need to fill the gaping hole in his life by getting another dobe so soon but NOT his subsequent decision to go with Kimbertal.


OP, I'm sorry for your loss, but you should never have gone with Kimbertal. There are so many dobes in rescue looking for a loving home that could have filled the hole in your life, there was absolutely no need to line the pockets of a puppy mill. You knew the reputation of this place & still went ahead with your purchase. You didn't save/rescue this puppy, you bought it & more dogs will suffer as a result of the actions of people like you. If you truly love the breed you would've run for the hills before you gave a cent to people like Ktal who care nothing for the breed. Shame on you.
 
#18 ·
I def knew better and yes at a puppy mill. My first boy came from a private breeder and suffered a early death. It don't matter where the dogs bloodline lies, any dog can be subject to disease and early death. I posted here I guess to update the loss of my boy and confess my sin for buying a new pup at a crappy mill? Anyway, like I said, lets celebrate a new dobie to a loving house and wish him a long healthy life.. DOBIES ROCK!
 
#20 ·
Thank you. It was one of the hardest times in my life. Dobies are a unique and awesome breed!
 
#21 ·
I'm thinking dcm. We did t opt for the autopsy due to money issues but the suddenness of it points to that. He did have an arrhythmia from my nursing expriance. So sad
 
#22 ·
This is my last comment on this thread. I sincerely hope that your puppy lives a good long life, as I hope for any dog or Doberman. You should realize that although all Dobes are at risk for a sudden death DCM or a slower DCM death, you have actually increased your odds of this disaster with this puppy. Not only that but you have put really good money in the pocket of the worst exploiter of the Doberman breed in America. Was that really worth the instant gratification and convenience?
 
#30 ·
I would like to offer you my deepest sympathy over the loss of your boy Baron.

I have no comment to make on your supporting Kimbertal. From what I have read on this forum they are not a particularly well liked and a great many will be disappointed to say the least that someone who knew what he was doing still went there and bought a pup from them.

But the deed is done, you felt you couldnt wait and so you bought your new boy and brought him home.

I do wish you all the best with him, may he have a long and happy life and whilst his start in life was less than stellar let us hope he shines like the sun itself and warms your heart for many years to come.
 
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