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Rules for DPCA Breeders?

2K views 18 replies 9 participants last post by  Fitzmar Dobermans 
#1 ·
I have a question because I can't remember the answer. Are DPCA members allowed to sell puppies through websites like Puppies for Sale ??

I didn't think they were but I found one. . . . . .
 
#2 ·
Hmm.. that's an interesting question. I decided to take a look at the COE, and saw these...

"5. All advertising shall be honest and not in any way misrepresentative, fraudulent, or misleading.
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10. Stud dogs shall not be bred to any bitch whose owner is directly or indirectly involved with any puppy broker, puppy mill, pet shops selling dogs, litter lot sales, or any other wholesale distributor whose business is involved in like activities..

11. No Doberman shall be sold to persons directly or indirectly involved with any puppy broker, puppy mill, pet shops selling dogs, litter lot sales or any other wholesale distributor whose business is involved in like activities. No Doberman shall be supplied for raffles, lotteries, or laboratory experiments."

But not anything pertaining specifically to websites like that, unless they would be considered a broker....

Silly question, but you're sure they are a DCPA member?
 
#3 ·
Positive because I logged into the members only section of the DPCA to see if they were still active members.
 
#7 ·
There is no rule about advertising puppies for sale on an on-line puppy site. Not sure why there would be? Not saying that I would ever advertise puppies that way, but it isn't unethical.

What is unfortunate for all the people who search for puppies on-line; is that most of the breeders that advertise on those sites are for sure not good ones.
 
#8 ·
I suppose it was more the company this ad was in (like you mentioned) and the wording of the ad that bothered me. Just trying to learn and such.
 
#11 ·
Interesting conversation.

I know someone who got his lead to a male Doberman off a site like that.

As he isn't versed at researching pedigrees at all... (Not that I have much experience either) he asked if I could do research on the pedigree. I was shocked to find this boy leading back to a 2009 Westminster bitch.

Needless to say, I was sort of in shock that he got this lead from a site like that... and that he was able to acquire the last male out of the litter.

Would have imagined that this woman would have had a waiting list... but then again... just because someone is a DPCA member... Doesn't always equal reputable.
 
#13 ·
Interesting conversation.

I know someone who got his lead to a male Doberman off a site like that.

As he isn't versed at researching pedigrees at all... (Not that I have much experience either) he asked if I could do research on the pedigree. I was shocked to find this boy leading back to a 2009 Westminster bitch.

Needless to say, I was sort of in shock that he got this lead from a site like that... and that he was able to acquire the last male out of the litter.

Would have imagined that this woman would have had a waiting list... but then again... just because someone is a DPCA member... Doesn't always equal reputable.
Just because we have waiting lists does not mean that they all work out. With my second litter of 6 (4 boys and 2 girls), I had homes all lined up and two of the boy homes fell through....... 3 others on my boy waiting list fell through also..... so in total, 5 homes fell through. I ended up with even better homes so it was all good.

There are some on line puppy lists that try to actively recruit good breeders, and I know this because they have tried to recruit me. I don't breed often enough to advertise - I get more enquires than I want from just being on the DPCA list. However, I don't really have any problem with putting good breeders on puppy sites - a lot of good homes don't know where to start their search. I don't know if the DPCA still puts an ad in Dog World or not since most people shop on line now.
 
#12 ·
There was discussion of this very topic not that long ago -someone made a very thoughtful post that softened my pov on advertising on those sites.
Having an ad there accomplishes what jdd mentioned & also doesn't mean the screening process is tossed out the window.
I found some high end breeders a couple years ago on was it breeders.net? One of which i *know* burns the candle @ both ends & probably spends every last second on her dogs & doesnt have time to fiddle w a website.
Just something to think about :)
 
#16 ·
I wish all the good breeders would advertise on these sites, even when they don't have puppies available. What a wonderful opportunity to educate people. Certainly, you will get those that want a cheap puppy, but you will also get people who haven't a clue, but are receptive.

It is absolutely true that if you aren't "dobe savvy" a good breeder isn't all that easy to find. Most people don't know what DPCA is or that it even exists, nor do most people know how to go about finding a dog show.

These things just aren't transparent to the average person/family. They often have learned not to purchase from puppy mills because some of the ads on TV, but it doesn't lead them away from the clean, commercial puppy mills like Kimbertal & Hoytt, nor does it direct them away from the Greeders, who are oftentimes just as ignorant as the buyers, but love their dogs, raise them in their home, socialize them and get the vet checked. So, the average dog ignorant person purchases a pup from a greeder, that was clean and loved and believes they did it right.

Sadly, this kind of thing isn't taught in schools.
 
#19 ·
I wish all the good breeders would advertise on these sites, even when they don't have puppies available. What a wonderful opportunity to educate people. Certainly, you will get those that want a cheap puppy, but you will also get people who haven't a clue, but are receptive.

It is absolutely true that if you aren't "dobe savvy" a good breeder isn't all that easy to find. Most people don't know what DPCA is or that it even exists, nor do most people know how to go about finding a dog show.

These things just aren't transparent to the average person/family. They often have learned not to purchase from puppy mills because some of the ads on TV, but it doesn't lead them away from the clean, commercial puppy mills like Kimbertal & Hoytt, nor does it direct them away from the Greeders, who are oftentimes just as ignorant as the buyers, but love their dogs, raise them in their home, socialize them and get the vet checked. So, the average dog ignorant person purchases a pup from a greeder, that was clean and loved and believes they did it right.

Sadly, this kind of thing isn't taught in schools.
I already get a ton of enquiries from people off of the DPCA list - I would not have the time to deal with yet more when I don't even have puppies and none planned anytime soon. I say right on my website that I don't have puppies, yet still get lots of emails. I don't mind helping people out that take the time to give me some information, but most people don't bother. I probably just as often discourage people from getting a Doberman as help them try to find one.
 
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