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CheriP · 02-23-2013, 09:08 PM

are there any (besides onions, avocado, and grapes) that are not healthy for puppies/dogs? Zeus is a little over 19 weeks and he goes crazy over raw veggies and fruit given as a treat! I have given him carrots, green beans and strawberries and would like to introduce more. Thanks!

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falnfenix · 02-23-2013, 09:11 PM

we never had an issue with them. we get MASSIVE carrots from our local farm store and i'd give him a frozen one occasionally when he was teething. he loved'em.

Sam1491 · 02-23-2013, 09:13 PM

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mabel loves green peppers! almost as much as meat, she also gets cantaloupe, watermelon, carrots, apples, bananas, whatever I offer she usually eats. Celery is a no go for all the dogs I've had though...and lettuce

falnfenix · 02-23-2013, 09:15 PM

oh god Deck ate celery ALL THE TIME. loved the crunch.

Sam1491 · 02-23-2013, 09:16 PM

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oh god Deck ate celery ALL THE TIME. loved the crunch.

none of ours can seem to figure out how to eat it lol, they end up shredding it.
Bananas are funny though!

CheriP · 02-23-2013, 10:30 PM

Zeus loves carrots! I never thought of freezing them, that's a great idea. I'll try it, as he is teething now. Thanks for the link, Sam - great info!

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Capone's Mommy · 02-23-2013, 11:55 PM

Modern Dog just had an article about this topic. Honeydew Melons, cantaloupe, mango, pears and unsweetened applesauce. I tried finding the particular article but not having luck. I did find this one that also suggest pineapple.

http://www.moderndogmagazine.com/art...food-dogs/9241

They also had this on happy brownies that uses bananas as well.

http://www.moderndogmagazine.com/happybrownies

Capone and Kiyan both love carrots. I chop them up and put them in their Kong.

Christina93 · 02-24-2013, 12:21 AM

Green tomatoes are some of my dogs favorites! And banana peppers. Lol. I found them eating our garden last summer

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**greenkouki** · 02-24-2013, 12:28 AM

I usually give trimmings from veggies and fruit as treats but I eat the good parts

. Pears, apples, peaches, mango, banana, broccoli, carrots, green beans, asparagus, etc. are all fair game here. My dog's favorite are oranges and grapefruit though.

vivienne00 · 02-24-2013, 01:56 PM

Avocados are OK - my Vet had me feed one of my dogs 1/2 avo every day for ages - about a year.

The problem is that avos can be toxic to other pets and the seed can be a problem. If you give the green flesh, there is no concern at all - a good source of oil for humans but not readily usable by carnivores.

Lil Mama · 02-24-2013, 05:42 PM

I have always been nervous to give Lil Mama fruit and veggies. She has sensitivity issues and any changes cause gas and diarrhea. Are there any that are easier to digest than others and not cause gastric upsets?

bean · 02-24-2013, 06:07 PM

Avocados are toxic to birds, and I think the pit is an issue. But some dog food has avocado as an ingredient.

I feed pretty much little bits of everything when I'm cooking except raw onion, grapes and raisins. Try sweet potato! Mine love it. Silas would pretty much do backflips over pineapple, too.

LindaH · 02-24-2013, 06:22 PM

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I have always been nervous to give Lil Mama fruit and veggies. She has sensitivity issues and any changes cause gas and diarrhea. Are there any that are easier to digest than others and not cause gastric upsets?

Watermelon should be okay, maybe mango, cantaloup. Think pineapple is good for the digestive system. I would stay away from apple, banana and citrus.

falnfenix · 02-24-2013, 06:25 PM

why apples? apples are usually recommended as an easy-to-digest food.

LindaH · 02-24-2013, 06:35 PM

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why apples? apples are usually recommended as an easy-to-digest food.

They may be fine as applesauce, but I do know they can occasionally do a number on my normally cast-iron stomach with gas and leaving in the same shape they go in. Hear that is called roughage.

Just figured with what they do to me, if a dog already has a sensitive stomach they would be trouble. I am talking strickly raw fruits.

Sam1491 · 02-24-2013, 06:37 PM

I'll also add to avoid beets! unless you love the smell of wrank doberfarts....

I've fed, most all melons(water, cantaloupe, honeydew) green peppers, carrots, apples, pineapple, banana, broccoli, cauliflower, and we've attempted celery and lettuce for fun at times.

Odin's_Master · 02-24-2013, 06:44 PM

My boys LOVE cucumber peelings and apples. Carrots, lettuce, melons, green peppers and celery are also enjoyed.

falnfenix · 02-24-2013, 06:52 PM

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They may be fine as applesauce, but I do know they can occasionally do a number on my normally cast-iron stomach with gas and leaving in the same shape they go in. Hear that is called roughage.

Just figured with what they do to me, if a dog already has a sensitive stomach they would be trouble. I am talking strickly raw fruits.

that's probably the skins doing a number on your gut. i read somewhere that it's not uncommon for adult women to have issues with apple skins. i stand by the fact that they're considered a base (and counteract high acid levels in the stomach), and therefore innocuous on unhappy tummies.

Lil Mama · 02-24-2013, 06:57 PM

Thanks for the info. I pretty much figured to stay away from veggies that are difficult for humans to digest...broccoli, cauliflower, beets, etc. Think I'll start by introducing pumpkin and gradually work in others. This is almost as bad as having a toddler! ;-) My chi has a cast iron tummy and eats EVERYthing.

LindaH · 02-24-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by falnfenix

that's probably the skins doing a number on your gut. i read somewhere that it's not uncommon for adult women to have issues with apple skins. i stand by the fact that they're considered a base (and counteract high acid levels in the stomach), and therefore innocuous on unhappy tummies.

And just what makes you think Ima woman???LOL

Prob.a.blee...really never thought about that. So okay, peel your apples for sensitive tummy dogs...makes sense. I love apples, but the prices are out of sight in the grocery stores. I generally wait to buy fresh from the apple places around here...MUCH better quality.

Sylvia · 02-24-2013, 07:06 PM

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mabel loves green peppers! almost as much as meat, she also gets cantaloupe, watermelon, carrots, apples, bananas, whatever I offer she usually eats. Celery is a no go for all the dogs I've had though...and lettuce

Thanks for posting that list. But I have to wonder about some of the stuff on there. For example, it lists Deramaxx. That's a common arthritis medication for dogs.

falnfenix · 02-24-2013, 07:07 PM

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And just what makes you think Ima woman???LOL

Prob.a.blee...really never thought about that. So okay, peel your apples for sensitive tummy dogs...makes sense. I love apples, but the prices are out of sight in the grocery stores. I generally wait to buy fresh from the apple places around here...MUCH better quality.

your username tipped me off.

and yeah, i hear ya. i usually get my apples at a local farm store. all the apples they sell are from their farm, so they have really good prices.

Sam1491 · 02-24-2013, 07:12 PM

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Thanks for posting that list. But I have to wonder about some of the stuff on there. For example, it lists Deramaxx. That's a common arthritis medication for dogs.

Deramaxx - Pet Poison Helpline

if you read though it's saying it can have poisonous effects when overingested...not all medications are deadly in larger doses but this is so that's why

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It is commonly used for osteoarthritis, inflammation, pain control, and occasionally cancer management in dogs. When ingested in toxic amounts by dogs or cats, it can result in severe gastric ulceration and acute kidney failure

I'd wager a bet other NSAIDS are on there too..

bean · 02-24-2013, 07:27 PM

Since there was a random mention of Deramaxx, I will post this here since I think that all Doberman owners should be aware of their potential sensitivity to the drug and other sulfa drugs. I have my vets put "No sulfa drugs" on Silas' chart just to be safe.

http://dpca.org/BreedEd/PDF/018%20NSAIDS.pdf
Here is the list of sulfa drugs that the DPCA mentions in the pdf.
1) Tribrissen (Trimethoprim/Sulfadiazine)
2) Ditrim (Trimethoprim/Sulfadiazine)
3) Bactrim (Trimethoprim/Sulfadiazine)
4) Septra (same as Bactrim)
5) Cotrim (same as Bactrim)
6) Comoxol (same as Bactrim)
7) Albon (Sulfadimethoxine/Ormetoprim)
8) Bactrovet (same as Albon)
9) Primor (Sulfadimethoxine/Ormetoprim)
10) Azulfidine (Sulfasalazine)
11) Apo-Sulfatrim
12) Novo-Trimel
13) Deramaxx

Now please continue with happy fruit and veggie conversations.

Oh, and I had a co-worker who was allergic to apple peels! It was the first I had heard of it. She could peel and eat them just fine - but no peels.

LindaH · 02-24-2013, 07:28 PM

Yep, nsaids can be dangerous, period. To humans and animals...read the box insert sometime.