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Old 02-09-2013, 08:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Excessive dander while on Fish Oil Supplement and Five Star Food

We adopted Bonnie as a rescue in November and are loving her! Her coat is super shiny, soft and feels healthy, however, she produces a lot of dander. She currently gets one (human) Fish Oil pill and eats Annamaet Grain Free products (Annamaet Grain Free Dog Food | Review and Rating). A few days a week we coat her food in either coconut or olive oil. It's odd because other than the dander her hair looks great; although, she does have some bumps on her body and spots where her hair is thinner.

I am not experienced with dobermans so I'm wondering if dander is a common doberman issue? Any advice is appreciated!
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Since Dandruff (Dander) and thinning coat can be symptoms of Hypothyroid, I would visit the Vet and have a thyroid panel run on her. Hypothyroid is extremely common in Dobermans.

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Old 02-09-2013, 08:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Excessive dander while on Fish Oil Supplement and Five Star Food

Just wondering what color is she?


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I was also going to say that it could be a thyroid thing.
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Has she always been like that or just in winter? It could be something in the food. It is a good food you are feeding and good supplements. The bumps and thin spots is what concerns me. Is she scratching or licking her body or paws?
Our boys sometime get a little when they get excited.
Just to rule things out. I would get the Full Thyroid Panel done. Tell your Vet. about Hemopet.
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I will definitely talk to the vet about thyroid and possibly get her tested. I read a few sites about it and Bonnie doesn't seem to exhibit any of the other symptoms. She's actually pretty high energy and loves to run, run, run! She was a little heavy when we got her, but only because her previous owner gave her a lot of table scraps.

It could be a minor condition or the begin of something worse to come, so I'll definitely discuss it with my vet. Any other ideas if it's not?
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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We've only had her since November, so I can't say for sure if it's a winter thing. She had the bumps and thin patches when we got her. I attributed them to stress as her owner died and she went into a shelter temporarily until we got her. They got a little better, but some remained.
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Sure it isn't demodex?

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Excessive dander while on Fish Oil Supplement and Five Star Food

First see your vet and rule out a underlying issue. Especially if this is a new dog to you, a complete blood panel is important.

I hear this often in the winter and always ask is your skin dry? Mine sure gets dry easier in the winter. Check the humidity level in your home. If you don't have a whole house humidifier, make sure you have one running where your dog spends most their time.
Also apple cider vinegar is excellent for dry skin. Add it to their food. I do a tablespoon each meal. Work up to that amount. As well I spray my dogs down with a mix that includes ACV and then wipe with a microfiber cloth every few days. A microfiber cloth will pull off any dead skin.


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My 1977 dobe was on a 2 star kibble and always had dandruff & chin pimples.
- but I didn`t know any better (back then) and it was not like preminum food knowledge was available or stores had it either

My year 2000 girl was on several 4 star foods (over 11.7 years) and perfect coat with no dandruff.

Our current 2012 puppy was on 4 & 5 star kibble and no dandruff either.
But the organic kibble and grain free (chicken based) gave her slightly loose stools.
- easy for me to kibble experiment, as I have sold high end pet food for a dozen years
Now we just feed Holistic Blend lamb and rice (4 star) and everything is good again.

Yes do a vet check & or maybe switch the food...can`t hurt (I like Lamb and Rice Formula - Holistic Blend )
Dandruff on a dobe is caused from an underlying issue, as its not common in the breed on top notch foods (from my experience).
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I was also going to suggest thyroid; it's even quite common to only exhibit a few clinical signs not all of them, and thin hair in patches, dander and skin issues are all clinical signs. My boy is hypo and the only change I notice was behavioural. He's super energetic, thin and has a great coat
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It is possible that the inclusion of olive and coconut oils have skewed the ratios of the various fatty acids to be less than ideal for carnivores. I would ditch both of these, and perhaps up the fish oil to a more useful level... one capsule per 10 - 20 lbs. of your dog's body weight.

It is also possible that your dog would benefit from a humidifier. During the winter, inside air is extremely dry due to heating. Some folks will leave an inch or two of water standing in the bathtub while it is not in use... evaporation will increase the humidity in the house.
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We've only had her since November, so I can't say for sure if it's a winter thing. She had the bumps and thin patches when we got her. I attributed them to stress as her owner died and she went into a shelter temporarily until we got her. They got a little better, but some remained.
If you only had her since Nov. I would go a head and get her tested so you have good base lines of Thyroid and Full Blood Chemistry.
Be sure to add with the fish oil a Vit E. I always make sure that there is no SOY in the Fish Oil. Yes some manuf. have SOY in their Fish Oils. Read the back label where it says Other Ingredients, Contains, or May Also Contain .
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I will definitely get the thyroid panel done! Thanks for the advice. We have gas radiators in our house, so our heat isn't typically too dry but it could be the winter.

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Can be Folliculitis-infection of the hair follicles.....
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