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01-22-2013, 09:38 AM
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| | Logan's Momma
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| Logan's eye issue (Picture)
Was finally able to snap a picture of Logans Right eye which i had questions about in another thread. Boy was that a challenge..he never sits still.
Figured id start a new thread since i actually have a picture now. So here it is...the vet says its a thickened 3rd eyelid??? That its not bothering him. But it seems to get really red sometimes and i think it does bother him because he will sometimes scratch at his face. I dont see how its not affecting his sight as well.
Any idea if a surgery is needed for something of this nature or worth it? I just dont want it to happen again once i decide. I know from what ive read that a lot of the eye issues tend to come back especially if they just do a tuck and small stitch.
And...im not really sure how to look up an eye specialist for dogs 
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01-22-2013, 09:43 AM
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| | Luv-The-Nub
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| You can visit any University/Vetschool to see an opthomologist, or if there are any specialty hospitals near you, they too should have an optho vet.
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01-22-2013, 09:56 AM
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| | Alpha
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| I would get his eye checked by a Veterinary Opthamologist. There's an opthamologist, Dr. Sapienza in Plainview, the only one on L.I. that I know of.
His number is (516)501-1700.
He treated my min-pin's glaucoma. He's very pricey but he would definitely be able to tell you exactly what the problem is and how to treat it.
I've heard of another opthamologist in the city that's supposed to be very good and much less expensive, but she's in the city...
Alexandra Van Der Woert, DVM,MS,DACVO,DECVO (Opthamology)
227 East 84th Street
New York NY 10028
Telephone: 212-249-8802 |
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01-22-2013, 10:21 AM
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| | Alpha
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| Almost looks like Cherry Eye. For sure see an Opthamologist. Let us know what it is. |
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01-22-2013, 08:36 PM
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| | Big Dog
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| Best to get it checked out by an ophthalmologist (I work in an ophtho clinic).
Go to American College of Veterinary Ophthalmologists
Follow the Veterinarians & Public link to Find Ophthalmologists. You can find one in your area or the closest to you. |
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04-23-2013, 08:12 PM
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| | Lil Pup
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| Curious if you ever got a second opinion, my new Dobie has the similar thing - I'm not sure if I should worry or not.  |
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04-23-2013, 08:20 PM
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoDobie Curious if you ever got a second opinion, my new Dobie has the similar thing - I'm not sure if I should worry or not.  | I would suspect cherry eye or an abscess or bacterial infection of some kind. Please have it checked out by your regular vet soon as I'm sure it's really uncomfortable! |
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04-23-2013, 11:03 PM
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| | Alpha
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| Our Oscar has this in both eyes and always has had..... It was checked out and we were told that it was not usually a problem, and that some dogs had a thicker third eyelid. Oscar has never had any problems with vision or infection due to this condition and he is 9 years old. |
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04-23-2013, 11:06 PM
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| | Enigma
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Originally Posted by Robin Luther Our Oscar has this in both eyes and always has had..... It was checked out and we were told that it was not usually a problem, and that some dogs had a thicker third eyelid. Oscar has never had any problems with vision or infection due to this condition and he is 9 years old. | That may be your dog's particular case. A veterinary opthamologist should see Idaho's dog, because you have no idea if it is the same, or something much worse. |
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04-23-2013, 11:13 PM
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| Agreed.... and Oscar did see an ophthalmologist also..... They said the thickened third eyelid was "not usually a problem" not that it never was..... there can be an increase in the chance of infection and if it continues to thicken it can require surgery. I was basing my comment on the OPs vets diagnosis and our particular experience. |
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04-23-2013, 11:18 PM
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| | Enigma
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| Yes, the OP's thread was older so probably some confusion. |
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04-23-2013, 11:35 PM
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| A second informed opinion is always the best course of action.... I learned the hard way that not all vets are terribly knowledgeable about Dobermans.... even good vets that have limited doberman experience can misdiagnose some of the issues that an experienced Dober doctor recognizes immediately. |
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04-23-2013, 11:57 PM
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| | Enigma
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| I wasn't aware it was common in dobes, I've never seen it myself. Quote: |
Conformational: specific breeds, such as doberman pinscher and pointer, have deep orbits and prominent third eyelids. This condition is not pathologic and treatment is not needed.
| Third Eyelid, Protruding
Of course, it should be diagnosed as "treatment not needed" by a professional. :wink: |
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04-24-2013, 06:40 AM
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| We were just told that "some dogs have thicker third eyelids" and we have had 4 other Dobies and they don't have it although Bubbas are more noticeable (he has kind of deep Dane looking eyes) than the others but not to the extent of Oscars. I guess Oscar has been fortunate to not have any infections or problems associated with this but I wouldn't really say they protrude (as in away from the eye surface) they just seem to come across the eye further and are somewhat thicker and more noticeable.
My first thought when I saw it was that he was getting cherry eye but like I said he has never had any problems connected to it at all other than having people look closely at his eyes and asking what was wrong with them .... he doesn't much care for random people doing that and it will cause a 30 minute blanket sucking session to calm his nerves. |
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