Doberman Dexter Ankle problem or not? - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums

GinoDundhal · 12-22-2012, 12:57 PM

hey i have a now 8 week puppy i got him 3 days ago so he just turned 8 weeks today, the breeder has been selling dogs for over 40 years.
My dogs name is dexter and i want to know why his ankle is alittle bent he is always in the kitchen which is decently big but it is non slip tile flooring?

a picture is below

vivienne00 · 12-22-2012, 01:30 PM

This looks like nutrition issues (I would suggest - I am not a vet).

Make sure you are NOT feeding puppy food - it should be an adult good quality food.

There are many threads on here about such puppy issues - normally under knuckling over - whereas yours is called "down in the pasterns".

Read this: Carpal Flexural Deformity, aka knuckling over or bowed legs

Your puppy's front legs should look more like this:

GinoDundhal · 12-22-2012, 06:14 PM

thanks for that, i was also ready and yeah alot of people saying to a puppy with this problem on adult food, i fed him adult food today.. but stopped now. in the morning he will be given some rice and that will give me time to go get adult food.. hopefully he gets better

vivienne00 · 12-22-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GinoDundhal

thanks for that, i was also ready and yeah alot of people saying to a puppy with this problem on adult food, i fed him adult food today.. but stopped now. in the morning he will be given some rice and that will give me time to go get adult food.. hopefully he gets better

You could feed him some RAW hamburger with a hardboiled egg and the shell (have him eat the shell too) to get his calcium in the correct ratio tonight. He could eat a RAW pork chop or some RAW ribs or some RAW chicken wings (I feed my dogs only raw food). Don't just feed him rice - he NEEDS protein and calcium but not the excessive amount you get in puppy food.

You could just give him half his puppy food and the rest made up of rice and cooked veggies. Thanks for listening.

GinoDundhal · 12-24-2012, 02:26 PM

feeding him adult food now, the brand is called barns i think.. 18 percent protein. feeding him 3 times a day, we are trying to limit his activity as in the morning he seems almost fine, until he applies pressure on his legs by walking they start bending..

today he has seemed a little better.. went to the vet and he didn't really look like he cared he basically suggested getting a x-ray which would cost around £350...
I think the vet just wants us to waste money?

I have read other things like this and is there any point in spending that much on a xray but if we did get it done and he what if he ends up saying.. everything is fine he will grow out of it.. ?

Rosemary · 12-24-2012, 09:07 PM

I think an x-ray is a reasonable suggestion. Those legs are definitely not normal.

VZ-Doberman · 12-24-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GinoDundhal

feeding him adult food now, the brand is called barns i think.. 18 percent protein. feeding him 3 times a day, we are trying to limit his activity as in the morning he seems almost fine, until he applies pressure on his legs by walking they start bending..

today he has seemed a little better.. went to the vet and he didn't really look like he cared he basically suggested getting a x-ray which would cost around £350...
I think the vet just wants us to waste money?

I have read other things like this and is there any point in spending that much on a xray but if we did get it done and he what if he ends up saying.. everything is fine he will grow out of it.. ?

Why wonder when you can just get the x-ray and know.

vivienne00 · 12-25-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GinoDundhal

feeding him adult food now, the brand is called barns i think.. 18 percent protein. feeding him 3 times a day, we are trying to limit his activity as in the morning he seems almost fine, until he applies pressure on his legs by walking they start bending..

today he has seemed a little better.. went to the vet and he didn't really look like he cared he basically suggested getting a x-ray which would cost around £350...
I think the vet just wants us to waste money?

I have read other things like this and is there any point in spending that much on a xray but if we did get it done and he what if he ends up saying.. everything is fine he will grow out of it.. ?

That sounds a bit expensive for an x-ray. I would check with other vets. Mine cost around $100 (in Oregon, USA) 1st time for the dog and follow-up (for the same cause) are about $60. They don't tranquilize - that is not needed and they certainly don't need to do that with a puppy. For $100, I get a copy of several radiographs on a CD to take home with me plus the analysis from the Vets.

I would get an xray because I have a need to know that this is the real reason and not growth plate damage causing the twisting, but the "down in the pasterns" look is more typical for GSDs - google that and find out more online.

Adara · 12-26-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GinoDundhal

feeding him adult food now, the brand is called barns i think.. 18 percent protein. feeding him 3 times a day, we are trying to limit his activity as in the morning he seems almost fine, until he applies pressure on his legs by walking they start bending..

today he has seemed a little better.. went to the vet and he didn't really look like he cared he basically suggested getting a x-ray which would cost around £350...
I think the vet just wants us to waste money?

I have read other things like this and is there any point in spending that much on a xray but if we did get it done and he what if he ends up saying.. everything is fine he will grow out of it.. ?

There does appear to be something wrong. It is not normal and correct puppy growth. IF you do not trust your vet and believe he is out for money, please find a new vet ASAP. I don't believe suggesting an xray is unreasonable in the least. If the xrays turns out fine, it is money well spent because you will rule out certain medical issues.

GinoDundhal · 12-27-2012, 06:52 AM

thanks for the advice, will be going to a new vet today.. hopefully he can suggest something good like them carpal supports..as i think that would help alot :/

GinoDundhal · 12-28-2012, 06:17 PM

my dad took dexter back to the person who we bought him off

I am upset that he is gone.. dexter came from a litter of 9 or 10 so that could have been the reason why he was like this... the person took him back which im glad as dexter will be in good hands... the person who sells them said the new litter at the end of january has 3 pups and i will be able to get one from there. thanks for your help guys it did mean alot

bye dexter

**MeadowCat** · 12-28-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GinoDundhal

my dad took dexter back to the person who we bought him off

I am upset that he is gone.. dexter came from a litter of 9 or 10 so that could have been the reason why he was like this... the person took him back which im glad as dexter will be in good hands... the person who sells them said the new litter at the end of january has 3 pups and i will be able to get one from there. thanks for your help guys it did mean alot

bye dexter

I think you should re-think getting another puppy from this kind of breeder. We'd be more than happy to point you towards ethical breeders.