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Relatives of Envy von Rubenhof

I'm looking for siblings or relatives of Envy von Rubenhof (Fabio Abba-Sonia x Asti von Rubenhof) for help in exploring any issues related to lesions on the lungs or cancers.

I don't want to alarm anyone, as it's extremely early in exploration of a concern found when a littermate was x-rayed this morning. What may be lesions on the lungs, or an anomaly of the area where cartilage meets rib bones, is causing concern. An aunt (same father x Asti's mother) had lesions found on her lungs this spring which took a long time for definitive diagnosis.

Owner is willing to share contact info/vet records with littermate/relative owners willing to help. This is the owner's once-in-a-lifetime dog and does not want to lose him at 7yrs old. Please PM me here so I can provide the owner's contact information.
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Pontiffhaus and ascomannis bred a litter to fabio. Two litters from Lisa actually. I can't speak for her litters from him but I know Caesar and his littermate are all healthy and alive approaching 9 years old. Sounds like its the bitch I'd be more concerned with
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I almost PM'd you Asmit. I honestly don't know what it is, if anything, just strange enough that his owner wants to research the hell out of what may have happened w/any relatives.
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With 12 pups in the litter, 9 males, 3 females, someone is bound to show up. I found an old bit of info where Kelly had kept Evil and then was looking to place him, but I don't know if that came to be.
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I have a similar bred male (out of agir and a fabio daughter). I have no issues with him tho. My dogs litter brother does have neck issues, but it is believed to be from an injury during training.


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I'm looking for siblings or relatives of Envy von Rubenhof (Fabio Abba-Sonia x Asti von Rubenhof) for help in exploring any issues related to lesions on the lungs or cancers.

I don't want to alarm anyone, as it's extremely early in exploration of a concern found when a littermate was x-rayed this morning. What may be lesions on the lungs, or an anomaly of the area where cartilage meets rib bones, is causing concern. An aunt (same father x Asti's mother) had lesions found on her lungs this spring which took a long time for definitive diagnosis.

Owner is willing to share contact info/vet records with littermate/relative owners willing to help. This is the owner's once-in-a-lifetime dog and does not want to lose him at 7yrs old. Please PM me here so I can provide the owner's contact information.

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I have a similar bred male (out of agir and a fabio daughter). I have no issues with him tho. My dogs litter brother does have neck issues, but it is believed to be from an injury during training.
Thank you Tamara. I'm glad to hear your dog is well!
Both the C and E litter dogs came up lame in one form or another which led to x-rays showing "spots" on the lungs. Because of their connection, the E-litter dog owner is doing any fact-finding on each dogs' health history that she can.

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Sadly, Emo died yesterday after surgery for bloat.
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Oh no! So sad to hear this.


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