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12-12-2012, 10:28 AM
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| | The Zoey & Zulu Nation
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Location: Port Huron, MI Dogs Name: Zoey Spikoli & Zulu Mugatu Dogs Age: 1 year
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| Female with massive swelling on face Our baby Zoey is a 1 year and 5 months old black and rust doberman. Two days ago we noticed a huge lump protruding from the left side of her face. We took her to the vet and they both said they did not know what was wrong, maybe a spider or bee bite they said. Today the lump and swelling appear to have spread down to the rest of the side of her face. Her teeth and gums are fine that's one thing we do know. She has a temperature of 103 now and our vet said we need to go to see the vets at Michigan State. Going to give her some baby aspirin in the mean time. |
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12-12-2012, 10:35 AM
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| | Eschew Prolixity
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| Looks almost like pictures I've seen of snake bites.
I hope you guys can get to a referral vet soon and get an answer. Good luck!
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12-12-2012, 11:14 AM
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| | Alpha
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| Ivan had a similar looking lump. He had a fever of 104.2. They gave him a shot of Rimadyl and then sent me home with antibiotics and more Rimadyl. He turned around pretty quickly after that.
Did your vet do a biopsy? Provide any sort of medication? |
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12-12-2012, 11:16 AM
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| Are you taking her in today? I'd get her in asap in case the fever goes up. Hope they can determine what exactly is going on. Poor baby.... |
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12-12-2012, 11:20 AM
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| Well there are obvious bad things that it could be (cancer, infection). But it could also be a clocked salivary gland. annoying, but no long term bad effects. Just needs flushed a few times and some anti inflammatory/pain meds. |
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12-12-2012, 11:21 AM
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| | Alpha | Wow that looks really nasty. I'd go back to the vets immediately.
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12-12-2012, 11:35 AM
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| I live in Michigan too, and you shouldn't have to go all the way to MSU to get some more diagnostics on this. Maybe your vet wasn't comfortable dealing with it?
With swelling and a temp like that, my first thought is an abscess or a reaction to something. If its an abscess, lancing it or doing an aspirate to see if there is a pocket of pus (infection) can be done to diagnose it, then it will need to be opened up and cleaned thoroughly, and she'd need antibiotics and continued wound care.
If its an allergic reaction, usually steroids and antihistamines are indicated.
Definitely take her back to a vet (probably a different one) today and have them properly diagnose and treat it. Good luck!
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12-12-2012, 12:25 PM
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| I work as a vet tech, and i recently saw a great dane with a similar situation, his was a hematoma that formed after some sort of trama, we sedated and drained it! but hopefully yall will find out soe good news soon! |
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12-12-2012, 12:53 PM
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12-12-2012, 03:01 PM
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| Poor girl! I hope you were able to get to in to a different vet that could provide you with some answers!
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12-12-2012, 03:07 PM
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| Poor thing ! Definately vet ASAP. If no clear answers there, try giving a benedryl pill, if it is a reaction to a bite or sting, it should help. But vet first ! Make sure the airway is not compromised
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12-12-2012, 03:11 PM
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| | Big Dog
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| This might save you a vet visit Try Benadryl ( 2 25mg twice a day) in the meantime, if it was a spider bite, it will go down using that. Is it hard or soft? |
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12-12-2012, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sue Strohecker Try Benadryl ( 2 25mg twice a day) in the meantime, if it was a spider bite, it will go down using that. Is it hard or soft? | Ummm, this might save you a vet visit? If there is ANYTHING, concerning a dogs health, do not try to self medicate. Why risk a dogs life?
Any update on zoey?
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12-13-2012, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sue Strohecker Try Benadryl ( 2 25mg twice a day) in the meantime, if it was a spider bite, it will go down using that. Is it hard or soft? | I would use the Benadryl and get to the vet now. I use Benadryl when ever I have swelling and suspect some kind of bite or allergic reaction. But with it looking that bad, I'd also go to a new vet that had some ideas. It needs treatment or appears that way. |
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12-13-2012, 07:01 AM
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| | Big Dog
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| Hi, my girl had what looks like the exact same thing your pup had about two months ago. I live in the city of Los Angeles where there are no snakes. The mass started out on one side, was soft, got hard as a rock and then seemed to move into the neck, jowl and lip and even moved to the other side progressively over 3 days. When the lump first appeared I rushed her to the vet. Labs, x-rays, ultrasound and CT scan and over $3,000 later.... I was told the asipirate first came back as showing fat and they repeated it and it was just inflamed cells and lymphoma and infection were not present There was "nothing
to biopsy" and I was told it was an "angry lymph node". They prescribed antibiotics, pain
medication and anti-inflammatories. It resolved and she is fine now. But what a scare. Good luck! I'll try and post pictures. They never figured out what caused it though.
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12-13-2012, 07:06 AM
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| | Big Dog
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| Soot, I can't figure out to post the pics. The lump looks the same as your, only Phoebes moved all about her jowls, lips and neck. It was bizarre and unsettling. Let us know if your vets get to the bottom of what is going on with your girl! |
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12-13-2012, 07:28 AM
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| This bitch probably has an infected salivary gland. We have had a couple of them over the past 40 years.
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12-13-2012, 10:06 AM
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| | The Zoey & Zulu Nation
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Location: Port Huron, MI Dogs Name: Zoey Spikoli & Zulu Mugatu Dogs Age: 1 year
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| The vet gave her antibiotics and I'm also giving her baby aspirin. |
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12-13-2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Smalone5420 The vet gave her antibiotics and I'm also giving her baby aspirin. | So it must be an infection of some kind. Did the vet give you an idea how she got it? Did they lacerated and drain the area?
Hope she feels better soon.
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