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12-08-2012, 10:48 AM
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Location: Ontario Canada Dogs Name: Nubis Titles: Heinz 57, Mongrel, Velcrow Dawg, Sidekick 1, Buddy3(BD3), CDN Dogs Age: 1 year 3 months
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| dry dog food in Canada to help with Pancreatitis I am looking for low fat dry dog food available in Canada as it looks like Nubis got acute Pancreatitis.?
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12-08-2012, 11:46 AM
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12-08-2012, 12:04 PM
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| I had to feed Parker the Royal Canine from my vet for the first month, but then put him on Lamb/rice California Natural as it had a low fat, like 11%. The vet said to try to find something 10% or lower and I figured the CN was close enough.
I only fed it for a couple of months as I used to feed it and it is not all that good of a food for Parker.
If your dog didn't have a bad bad case with permanent damage, you can eventually up the fat, but I wouldn't for 6 months to a year. Natural Dog Food, Cat Food and Puppy Food for Pets With Food Sensitivity ? California Natural
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12-08-2012, 12:27 PM
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I was checking the stats on royal canin. But I found blue buffalo has a chicken and brown rice that is 6% in fat. The vet said try to get low fat as his vet prescribed royal canin is 5%.
when ole Nubis boy didnt initially eat yesterday morning right away I knew there was a problem. He ate 2hrs later and puked it up. He then lost interest in everything and was being a big suuck and by 3 this morning we went to the vet.
The vet said not to start feeding him till tomorrow am and I will b happy once I see him eat again.
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12-08-2012, 12:57 PM
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I was checking the stats on royal canin. But I found blue buffalo has a chicken and brown rice that is 6% in fat. The vet said try to get low fat as his vet prescribed royal canin is 5%.
when ole Nubis boy didnt initially eat yesterday morning right away I knew there was a problem. He ate 2hrs later and puked it up. He then lost interest in everything and was being a big suuck and by 3 this morning we went to the vet. The vet said not to start feeding him till tomorrow am and I will b happy once I see him eat again. | Be sure to read the dogaware site as there is evidence contrary to leaving the gut empty for long on dogs with pancreatitis. Can't remember how long now??? |
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12-08-2012, 01:16 PM
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It seems from what I have been reading 24 hrs is mentioned and best to feed In lower portions spread out, so there is less work on the pancreas so it can heal.
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12-09-2012, 05:56 AM
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| I fed Pullo a lamb & rice called VERUS that had 10% fat. It was also a minimal ingredient food. He did very well on it. |
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12-09-2012, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cathy43 I fed Pullo a lamb & rice called VERUS that had 10% fat. It was also a minimal ingridient food. He did very well on it. | Thanks
Did they possibly pinpoint what might have caused it.
I am not convinced it is diet as i grew up with dogs that ate everything and lived long lives and never had Issues.
I did read since he got this that flea controls (ie: topicals) can possibly cause it. For me that makes more sense as I am not comfortable with thst stuff flowing through his system.
I gave him first meal just now and he wss so happpy to eat again but rationing out his portions will be a challenge. Luckily he is far from a picky eatter so whatever food I end up with it should be good.
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12-09-2012, 07:50 AM
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| Sorry to hear of Nubis problem.
This happened a decade ago:
"Xena is a 3.5 year old Minature Pinscher female. She was on Science Diet dry kibble and her growing weight was becoming a real concern at 12 lbs, 2 oz. The vet then put her on Science Diet Light canned food (no dry, for lower protein and fat content) but she kept pooping, six times a day, and gained even more weight which reached 12.5 lbs. Also, on the Science Diet Light stuff, she got pancreas problems real quick, and then won't eat vet food anymore.
- not until the dog was switched to the premade RAW diet (>>$$) + organic treats, did its pancreatitis problem completely disappear
My favorite Canadian kibble, is Holistic-Blend Lamb & Rice "all-life-stages" (Toronto company) and they now have a Chicken/Salmon grain free bag, as well...this is the dry food brands, my dog(s) eat from day1 and Organix treats with an occasional marrow bone from the butcher shop.
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12-09-2012, 04:52 PM
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| Pullo was an immune system mess. He had Addison's, IBD, low thyroid. He was eating a raw diet (beef) when he was hospitalized for pancreatitus. Looking at him, you would think he was totally normal except that he was always very thin and had a thin coat. he was a happy boy till he died of cardiac problems 1 week before his 5th B-day. |
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12-09-2012, 09:37 PM
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| Our last dog got pancreatitis as a result of eating, as prescribed, the stone dissolving diet from Hill's. It is a whopping 22% fat.
We, too, fed the Royal Canin presciption diet appropriate to her condition during recovery. After that she got the Royal Canin stone dissolving diet.
I had tried The Blue Wilderness for her prior, but it brought her urine pH up way too high, and, obviously, she was already at risk for stones/urinary tract disorders.
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| My friend's crested got it after a child left a package of powdered donut holes out and parents didn't know the child brought them. He isn't a dog that does well at the vet (leaving him) so she took him in a few times for fluids, had him on some pain meds, tummy meds. They withheld food for 24 hours and started with AD canned 1 tbsp at a time and slowly increased his food. he eats normal food now.
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12-10-2012, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaumont67 Sorry to hear of Nubis problem.
This happened a decade ago:
"Xena is a 3.5 year old Minature Pinscher female. She was on Science Diet dry kibble and her growing weight was becoming a real concern at 12 lbs, 2 oz. The vet then put her on Science Diet Light canned food (no dry, for lower protein and fat content) but she kept pooping, six times a day, and gained even more weight which reached 12.5 lbs. Also, on the Science Diet Light stuff, she got pancreas problems real quick, and then won't eat vet food anymore.
- not until the dog was switched to the premade RAW diet (>>$$) + organic treats, did its pancreatitis problem completely disappear
My favorite Canadian kibble, is Holistic-Blend Lamb & Rice "all-life-stages" (Toronto company) and they now have a Chicken/Salmon grain free bag, as well...this is the dry food brands, my dog(s) eat from day1 and Organix treats with an occasional marrow bone from the butcher shop. | Thanks
Nubis boy is firing on all cylinders again and not too happy with his many smaller portions of food througtout the day.
Once he is finished with the Royal Canin low fat diet, I am switching him over to this Blue Buffalo Life Protection formula which has low fat and hopefully it subsides.
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12-10-2012, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cathy43 Pullo was an immune system mess. He had Addison's, IBD, low thyroid. He was eating a raw diet (beef) when he was hospitalized for pancreatitus. Looking at him, you would think he was totally normal except that he was always very thin and had a thin coat. he was a happy boy till he died of cardiac problems 1 week before his 5th B-day. | Thanks.
Did you continue with the raw diet after he got pancreatitus?
I was always leaning towards a raw diet.
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12-10-2012, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Adara My friend's crested got it after a child left a package of powdered donut holes out and parents didn't know the child brought them. He isn't a dog that does well at the vet (leaving him) so she took him in a few times for fluids, had him on some pain meds, tummy meds. They withheld food for 24 hours and started with AD canned 1 tbsp at a time and slowly increased his food. he eats normal food now. | Thanks
Initially, when he wouldnt eat and then puked up, I thought for sure he had an obstruction. In the past, he has swallowed back stuff, he shouldnt have but the last few months, he has lost interest. (which is good).
Needless to say, when I seen him have a good bowel movement today, I was elated.
He appears to be in good spirits now, but I am sure all the meds are helping him.
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