Vetgen vs Lab testing for vWD - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums

Rouleaux · 11-29-2012, 10:43 PM

I was wondering what other people's experiences are/were with laboratory testing vs. Vetgen vWD testing.

I tested Rouleaux two separate times through a laboratory, with similar results, but not identical.

I purchased a Vetgen kit yesterday, and while I wait for the kit to come in I was wondering other experiences with the two different methods, as I have seen plenty of times on this site that laboratory titers/results are wildly unreliable.

RedFawnRising · 11-30-2012, 12:19 AM

Huh?

Do you mean you did the ELISA test thru your veterinarian? Twice?

THAT is the test that is unreliable, insofar as then knowing your animal's vWD status.

The VetGen or VetNostic tests are a one-time, DNA test. Nothing unequivocal or changeable about that.

You get an accurate result, and you know the status for life. A dog's DNA doesn't change over its lifetime. (Assuming it's not living inside the reactor at Three Mile Island, that is.)

I think you're confusing the level of vWD's factor found in the blood at any given time (what the ELISA tests for) v. the actual genetic status of each dog.

There are other clotting/coag factors that influence an individual animal's clotting time on any given day--I always have a buccal test performed the day of surgery, for elective surgeries on any Doberman, and I tend to do at least annual coag panels, too, esp. if there have ever been any issues.

Amelia_ · 11-30-2012, 03:35 AM

We used Laboklin (who are the European equivalents of Vetgen) and the test is a very easy, one time test to tell you the results

We used the buccal swabs rather than blood, and got the results back about a week later. Well worth knowing!

Adara · 11-30-2012, 10:41 AM

If your vet suggested the ELISA test to determine VWD status, you might also bring down information to him/her for future Dobe owners. It's often a waste of money if used to determine VWD status for Dobermans.

VZ-Doberman · 11-30-2012, 10:45 AM

Vet Gen test is easy to do and reliable.

ACarrigDobermans · 11-30-2012, 11:06 AM

I used to use vetgene but now I use vetnostic. I love them they have been great.

avianantics · 11-30-2012, 11:11 AM

I used Vetnostic with Lola. They were quick, less expensive than Vet Gen, and I submitted Wheeler again as a control sample (and the fact that his Vet Gen results i.d. him as "Butt", since he was done as a wee lad). All is good, they were accurate.

RedFawnRising · 11-30-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by avianantics

I used Vetnostic with Lola. They were quick, less expensive than Vet Gen, and I submitted Wheeler again as a control sample (and the fact that his Vet Gen results i.d. him as "Butt", since he was done as a wee lad). All is good, they were accurate.

His name on the first results is...Butt?

Rouleaux · 11-30-2012, 06:08 PM

I did the ELISA twice before I had his ears cropped just to have a baseline and I was already sending out a full health screen prior to surgery, so I repeated the vWD ELISA just to see what it would come back as. His % the second time was lower than the first but the first was no better and there was interference from clotting which I thought- hey he is freaking clotting!

His health screen came back normal for a 10 week old puppy, so surgery commenced and produced the what I believe to be the most beautiful ears I have ever seen ( I am like most owners, biased to my own dog

)

I am doing the Vetgen now just because I want TRUE results

I was just wondering if anyone has done the ELISA for grins!

Through the 2 tests I am expecting him to be Carrier status, but will be very happy if he comes back Clear!