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Here's a little background info on Mayhem. We have tried several foods and I think I have found the brand I like. Mayhem was on Iams when we brought him home. We then went to Purina Pro Plan, then TOTW, and now Nature's Variety Instinct.

Mayhem started itching and scratching really bad at around 10 weeks. We took him to the vet and they did a skin scrape which came back negative for mange but they felt like that was it and we began treatment. He was itching so bad that he had to be put on an antibiotic and prednisone. Every time we tried to wean him off the prednisone he went right back to intense scratching. Fast forward to around 18 weeks...still the same. I confronted the vet and said there is no way this is mange ...it has to be an allergy of some sort. They gave us Royal Canin to feed. I dont want to feed this so I bought the NVI Salmon (small bag) and I started seeing improvements. Next bag I bought the Beef and Lamb. Itching started again. I was drving into work last week and it hit me. Everything, including treats have beef.

4 days ago I bought the NVI Limited Lamb, removed all treats and he is doing noticeably better. He will be completely off the prednisone Tues, he isnt itching but a little (I know it will take a little time to get everything out of his system), his coat is shiny again, and he doesn't stink. I believe he is allergic to BEEF. Once I have him completely better, I will give him beef to confirm but I am so glad this is hopefully resolved. It has been an ordeal for us and especially Mayhem.
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I think my dog, Ivan, is allergic to chicken. Now that I've got his hock issue figured out, I'm going to try and figure out if he truly has allergies. My latest issue was that the beef flavored Greenies Pill Pockets have chicken in them. Grr... Reading the flavor isn't enough. Still have to read all of the ingredients.
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Here's a little background info on Mayhem. We have tried several foods and I think I have found the brand I like. Mayhem was on Iams when we brought him home. We then went to Purina Pro Plan, then TOTW, and now Nature's Variety Instinct.

Mayhem started itching and scratching really bad at around 10 weeks. We took him to the vet and they did a skin scrape which came back negative for mange but they felt like that was it and we began treatment. He was itching so bad that he had to be put on an antibiotic and prednisone. Every time we tried to wean him off the prednisone he went right back to intense scratching. Fast forward to around 18 weeks...still the same. I confronted the vet and said there is no way this is mange ...it has to be an allergy of some sort. They gave us Royal Canin to feed. I dont want to feed this so I bought the NVI Salmon (small bag) and I started seeing improvements. Next bag I bought the Beef and Lamb. Itching started again. I was drving into work last week and it hit me. Everything, including treats have beef.

4 days ago I bought the NVI Limited Lamb, removed all treats and he is doing noticeably better. He will be completely off the prednisone Tues, he isnt itching but a little (I know it will take a little time to get everything out of his system), his coat is shiny again, and he doesn't stink. I believe he is allergic to BEEF. Once I have him completely better, I will give him beef to confirm but I am so glad this is hopefully resolved. It has been an ordeal for us and especially Mayhem.
That is great news. Any time you can get them off of drugs is a great thing.
You can also add Digestive Enzymes and a good Probiotic in his food.
Also Certified Organic Coconut Oil is very good for allergies and skin and coat and other things.

The Health Benefits Of Coconut Oil
Written by Dogs Naturally Magazine on July 8, 2011. Posted in Nutrition And Diet 171 Comments

Although supplements can be a confusing topic for many pet owners, most dog owners have heard of the benefits of feeding fish oils. There are however, a variety of oils that you can also use to your dog’s benefit, each with different actions and benefits.
Coconut oil consists of more than 90% saturated fats, with traces of few unsaturated fatty acids, such as monounsaturated fatty acids and polyunsaturated fatty acids. Most of the saturated fats in coconut oil are Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs). The main component (more than 40%) of MCTs is lauric acid, followed by capric acid, caprylic acid, myristic acid and palmitic. Coconut oil also contains about 2% linoleic acid (polyunsaturated fatty acids) and about 6% oleic acid (monounsaturated fatty acids).
Most of the coconut oil benefits come from the MCTs. For example, the lauric acid in coconut oil has antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal properties. Capric and caprylic acid have similar properties and are best known for their anti-fungal effects.
In addition, MCTs are efficiently metabolized to provide an immediate source of fuel and energy, enhancing athletic performance and aiding weight loss. In dogs, the MCTs in coconut oil balance the thyroid, helping overweight dogs lose weight and helping sedentary dogs feel energetic.
According to Dr. Bruce Fife, certified nutritionist and naturopathic doctor, coconut oil gently elevates the metabolism, provides a higher level of energy and vitality, protects you from illness, and speeds healing. As a bonus, coconut oil improves any dog’s skin and coat, improves digestion, and reduces allergic reactions.
Fed regularly to pets, coconut oil may have multiple benefits:
Skin Conditions
Clears up skin conditions such as eczema, flea allergies, contact dermatitis,and itchy skin
Reduces allergic reactions and improves skin health
Makes coats become sleek and glossy, and deodorizes doggy odor
Prevents and treats yeast and fungal infections, including candida
Disinfects cuts and promotes wound healing
Applied topically, promotes the healing of cuts, wounds, hot spots, dry skin and hair, bites and stings
Digestion
Improves digestion and nutrient absorption
Aids healing of digestive disorders like inflammatory bowel syndrome and colitis
Reduces or eliminates bad breath in dogs
Aids in elimination of hairballs and coughing
Immune System, Metabolic function, Bone Health
Contains powerful antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal agents that prevent infection and disease
Regulates and balance insulin and promotes normal thyroid function
Helps prevent or control diabetes
Helps reduce weight, increases energy
Aids in arthritis or ligament problems
Integrative Veterinarian and Naturopathic Doctor, Dr. Karen Becker, says “Medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs) have been shown to improve brain energy metabolism and decrease the amyloid protein buildup that results in brain lesions in older dogs. Coconut oil is a rich source of MCTs. I recommend 1/4 teaspoon for every 10 pounds of body weight twice daily for basic MCT support.”
Why not give coconut oil a try and introduce it to your dog? It offers many benefits for your dog and is a more sustainable and less toxic source of oils than fish.
- See more at: The Health Benefits Of Coconut Oil
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Any suggestions for the the digestive enzymes, probiotic, and organic cocumnut oil...as in brands? Thanks.


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That is great news. Any time you can get them off of drugs is a great thing.
You can also add Digestive Enzymes and a good Probiotic in his food.
Also Certified Organic Coconut Oil is very good for allergies and skin and coat and other things.

The Health Benefits Of Coconut Oil
Written by Dogs Naturally Magazine on July 8, 2011. Posted in Nutrition And Diet 171 Comments

Although supplements can be a confusing topic for many pet owners, most dog owners have heard of the benefits of feeding fish oils. There are however, a variety of oils that you can also use to your dog’s benefit, each with different actions and benefits.
Coconut oil consists of more than 90% saturated fats, with traces of few unsaturated fatty acids, such as monounsaturated fatty acids and polyunsaturated fatty acids. Most of the saturated fats in coconut oil are Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCTs). The main component (more than 40%) of MCTs is lauric acid, followed by capric acid, caprylic acid, myristic acid and palmitic. Coconut oil also contains about 2% linoleic acid (polyunsaturated fatty acids) and about 6% oleic acid (monounsaturated fatty acids).
Most of the coconut oil benefits come from the MCTs. For example, the lauric acid in coconut oil has antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal properties. Capric and caprylic acid have similar properties and are best known for their anti-fungal effects.
In addition, MCTs are efficiently metabolized to provide an immediate source of fuel and energy, enhancing athletic performance and aiding weight loss. In dogs, the MCTs in coconut oil balance the thyroid, helping overweight dogs lose weight and helping sedentary dogs feel energetic.
According to Dr. Bruce Fife, certified nutritionist and naturopathic doctor, coconut oil gently elevates the metabolism, provides a higher level of energy and vitality, protects you from illness, and speeds healing. As a bonus, coconut oil improves any dog’s skin and coat, improves digestion, and reduces allergic reactions.
Fed regularly to pets, coconut oil may have multiple benefits:
Skin Conditions
Clears up skin conditions such as eczema, flea allergies, contact dermatitis,and itchy skin
Reduces allergic reactions and improves skin health
Makes coats become sleek and glossy, and deodorizes doggy odor
Prevents and treats yeast and fungal infections, including candida
Disinfects cuts and promotes wound healing
Applied topically, promotes the healing of cuts, wounds, hot spots, dry skin and hair, bites and stings
Digestion
Improves digestion and nutrient absorption
Aids healing of digestive disorders like inflammatory bowel syndrome and colitis
Reduces or eliminates bad breath in dogs
Aids in elimination of hairballs and coughing
Immune System, Metabolic function, Bone Health
Contains powerful antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal agents that prevent infection and disease
Regulates and balance insulin and promotes normal thyroid function
Helps prevent or control diabetes
Helps reduce weight, increases energy
Aids in arthritis or ligament problems
Integrative Veterinarian and Naturopathic Doctor, Dr. Karen Becker, says “Medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs) have been shown to improve brain energy metabolism and decrease the amyloid protein buildup that results in brain lesions in older dogs. Coconut oil is a rich source of MCTs. I recommend 1/4 teaspoon for every 10 pounds of body weight twice daily for basic MCT support.”
Why not give coconut oil a try and introduce it to your dog? It offers many benefits for your dog and is a more sustainable and less toxic source of oils than fish.
- See more at: The Health Benefits Of Coconut Oil
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As far as Coconut Oil. Make sure it is USDA Certified Organic, Extra Virgin, and NO GMO. Brand wise we use Vitacost, and Nutivia. We get the 54oz jars. You can find them on Amazon or go to their sites. I'm sure they have it your local Health Food store like GNC. But you will pay more.

For probiotics checkout Dr. Karen Beckers site. There are lots of others. Great info on how to pick them.
If your dog or cat (and humans) has a heathy intestineal tract they will be healthy. 60-70% of their immune system is located in the intestinal tract. Also we do not over vaccinate (yearly boosters) once your pet has had its core vaccines. We do Titers which tests the level of antibodies of Parvo and Distemper. Except for Rabbies every 3 yrs. Wish they would change that law.

Also this site has lots of info about Prebiotics and Probiotics.
The Land of PureGold Foundation, a dog cancer research charity, promotes healthy, organic foods and holistic remedies.
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By Dr. Becker

If you're confused by the difference between prebiotics and probiotics, you're not alone.

One of the differences is that prebiotics feed intestinal bacteria, while probiotics are one type of those bacteria -- the good type.

Prebiotics are billed as feeding only beneficial bugs in the gut, but research indicates they feed both good and bad microorganisms.

For Pets with GI Conditions, Prebiotics Are a Bad Idea

For a dog or cat with a very fit digestive tract, prebiotics probably won't do any harm. But many pets today have GI conditions like IBD, IBS, leaky gut, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) and other issues. The good to bad bacteria ratio in their GI tract is out of whack, and the last thing we want to do is feed pathogenic bacteria with prebiotics.

That's why I always warn against prebiotics for pets with any type of gastrointestinal dysfunction.

Another confusing thing about prebiotics is they are commonly referred to as fiber because they are non-digestible. Prebiotics are actually complex sugars, and the most common source for them in inexpensive pet food is dried beet pulp. In better quality brands, they're often listed as fructo-oligosaccharide, chicory root, or garlic.

Since prebiotics are sugar and sugar feeds yeast and other opportunistic pathogens in the small intestine pets with yeasty guts can get much sicker from ingesting prebiotics.

The Quality of Probiotics is Key

Another distinction between pre- and probiotics is that prebiotics are commonly added to pet food, but probiotics can't be (or shouldn't be).

If you do happen to run across a pet food claiming to contain probiotics, I recommend you leave it right there on the shelf. Probiotics are sensitive to moisture and heat, so if they're added to a pet food formula – especially kibble – they will be long dead and virtually useless by the time they make it into your dog's or cat's digestive tract.

The bacteria in a probiotic must be live and able to reproduce in order for it to be beneficial. Tests on dog foods claiming to contain probiotic micro-organisms showed the manufacturing process kills too many of the live bacteria, rendering the probiotic effect useless by the time the food is packaged and shipped.

High quality pet probiotics have some important things in common, including:

The correct strains of bacteria beneficial for pets, not people
Easy to give to your dog or cat
The ability to survive the acidic environment of your pet's stomach
Enough live organisms to colonize the intestines
Product stability under normal storage conditions

The probiotic I use at my Natural Pet clinic and also at home is Mercola's Complete Probiotics for Pets. It meets all the standards I just listed, plus it's GMP certified.

Veterinary Probiotic Use Continues to Expand

Most of us who practice holistic and integrative veterinary medicine have known of the benefits of probiotics for decades.

But because probiotics are a supplement rather than a drug, the traditional veterinary community and those it serves have been slow to incorporate it into pet health care protocols.

Fortunately, things are changing for the better. An increasing number of traditional vets, pet owners and caretakers are using probiotics to:

Treat diarrhea
Help cats and dogs in shelters manage the stress of abandonment and confinement
Alleviate GI upset while pets are being boarded
Reseed the gut with beneficial bacteria after a round of antibiotics
Calm digestive upsets caused by travel and dietary changes
Improve digestion and stool quality in large and giant breed dogs
Boost immune system function, especially in pets that are very young, elderly, or have compromised health

According to Dr. Amy Dicke, technical services veterinarian for P&G PetCare:

"Kittens' and puppies' intestinal bacterial balance begins forming when their mom licks them. The bacteria accumulated in the first couple of weeks of an animal's life can ultimately affect their long-term bacteria colonization. When animals are orphaned or even when they have loose stools, a probiotic can help remedy the situation."

Another encouraging sign is a greater focus by new vet school grads on preventing illness, and the importance of nutrition and digestion in keeping pets healthy.

Now that the use of probiotics to support digestion and immune function is growing in acceptance, the traditional veterinary community is more willing to consider other types of conditions that respond to probiotics. For example in humans, research suggests that asthma and other immune-related disturbances may be reduced with probiotic use.

A Word of Caution

It's much healthier for your pet if you feed natural, whole food as part of a balanced, species-appropriate diet rather than a commercial pet food formula with a laundry list of 'extras' like added prebiotics.

Joseph Wakshlag, DVM and assistant professor of clinical nutrition at Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine in New York points out that:

"… some manufacturers throw everything but the kitchen sink in their products and pet owners may think that makes it a good food when it doesn't. Manufacturers sometimes have ingredients in their foods that naturally contain prebiotics, but they add more like fructooligosaccharides and mannanoligosaccharides because owners are looking for that on the ingredients list."

Your dog or cat should receive the bulk of his nutrients from a good quality diet.

With the basics in place, you can then consult your holistic vet about beneficial supplements for the individual needs of your furry companio

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Please don't add any supplements, oils, probiotics at this time. These items will simply make it more difficult to determine what he is allergic to. See how he does on the NVI Limited ingredient lamb for at least 30 days (90 days preferably) before you start adding additional things to the mix. You may find that NVI is all he needs.
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I am losing my mind. It seems this food is not doing the trick. Mayhem is totally off the prednisone and is itching like crazy with red bumps, biting his feet, etc. I feel so bad for him. Could he be allergic to Lamb also? Anyone suggest a diff food by NVI..perhaps the duck or turkey?

He is off all treats, no supplements, and no chews such as bully sticks, etc. How long on a food before you know its working? I figured the itching should stop in a few days if he is on something he is not allergic to, right?

Also, our vet doesn't seem to want to test for allergies but refer us to a vet 2hrs away?? Guess we will be looking for a new vet.
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Max is allergic to lots of things, chicken (any poultry for that matter), pork and fish. The only thing that he can have is beef in small quantities. I have to read the labels VERY carefully as they use chicken oil in ALOT of dry foods as a preservative agent. Also, treats, they use alot of chicken products in those as well.

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Take him off everything. Try Natural Balance duck, bison, venison or fish (something he hasn't had before) for two months. No treats, no chews, no table food.....nothing. You have to let his system get rid of what the culprit is. Then if he is clear of itching you can try ONE product. Pick something like cheese or eggs. If he stays clear add another product.

You must become a label reader. Sometimes the allergic food is part of another food. My dog is allergic to corn.....in any form. He can't have french fries because they are cooked in veg. oil which has corn oil in it.

Jumping from one thing to another then adding supplements is never going to give you the offending food. Patience is the name of the game here.

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I am losing my mind. It seems this food is not doing the trick. Mayhem is totally off the prednisone and is itching like crazy with red bumps, biting his feet, etc. I feel so bad for him. Could he be allergic to Lamb also? Anyone suggest a diff food by NVI..perhaps the duck or turkey?

He is off all treats, no supplements, and no chews such as bully sticks, etc. How long on a food before you know its working? I figured the itching should stop in a few days if he is on something he is not allergic to, right?

Also, our vet doesn't seem to want to test for allergies but refer us to a vet 2hrs away?? Guess we will be looking for a new vet.
The dermatologist I took Bacchus to completely dismissed the allergy tests done by his regular vet. Instead we were put on the one dog food (nat. bal. venison) for a couple of months. He was given antibiotics and pred at our initial visit. The antibiotics were for a month. It took time but we narrowed down to corn. The allergy tests done by our regular vet had him allergic to a bunch of things. Now I know it's corn.
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The dermatologist I took Bacchus to completely dismissed the allergy tests done by his regular vet. Instead we were put on the one dog food (nat. bal. venison) for a couple of months. He was given antibiotics and pred at our initial visit. The antibiotics were for a month. It took time but we narrowed down to corn. The allergy tests done by our regular vet had him allergic to a bunch of things. Now I know it's corn.
Might I ask if these were the blood allergy tests?
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Might I ask if these were the blood allergy tests?
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Here's a little background info on Mayhem.
They gave us Royal Canin to feed. I dont want to feed this so I bought the NVI Salmon (small bag) and I started seeing improvements. Next bag I bought the Beef and Lamb. Itching started again. I was drving into work last week and it hit me. Everything, including treats have beef.
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Yes, your dog could be allergic to lamb. After re-reading your original post, I noticed two things:

1. You saw improvement with salmon
2. Itching started again with beef & lamb

I would find a limited ingredient fish based kibble (e.g., California Natural herring and sweet potato; California Natural salmon and peas). My vet thinks California Natural is one of the best simple foods to try before moving to prescription dog food. Alternatively, I would go back to NV salmon. Try a small bag of the new food and see how it goes. You will eventually find something that works for your dog.

BTW, was your dog itching when he was being fed Iams? If not, then what protein source was in the Iams. Maybe you should consider going back to Iams or a higher quality limited ingredient kibble that contains the same protein source as Iams. Hindsight is 20/20, but changing his food by 10 weeks of age may not have been a good idea. He already had so many changes in his life that you should have kept his food consistent if he was doing fine on it. Think about it, he left his litter mates whom he enjoyed playing with all day. He left his breeder who nurtured him. He left his mom. He left is environment for a new one. His food and water changed. Everything changed but the air he breathes.

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Also check out Dr. Jean Dodds site. I would send a sample to her. Home
She has a NutriScan Test.
Additionally, Dr. Dodds has introduced NutriScan, a novel, patented canine food sensitivity and intolerance testing system. This assay system uses saliva, rather than serum, and offers a clinically important new approach in nutrition. Salivary diagnostics can more reliably identify the foods to be avoided rather than focus on those that are less likely to be reactive.

Dr. Dodds' revolutionary concept is the first food intolerance and sensitivity testing program to match pets with their individual nutritional needs and genetic makeup, i.e. functional nutrition or nutrigenomics. This provides owners with accurate information to select the optimal pet foods and treats based on high level nutritional principles. Please visit NutriScan’s website for more information.
She also does the Thyroid Profile Plus 5 Its a complete Thyroid Panel along with important Blood Tests
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Thank you. And yes, we have noticed him scratching since day 1 at 8 weeks old. We attributed the scratching to possible fleas and then the vet thought it was mange.

I see what you are saying about the constant changes but like you said hindsight is 20/20. This is our first pup since I was a child and we are a little new to this. We just want him better and to have the best life we can give him.


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Yes, your dog could be allergic to lamb. After re-reading your original post, I noticed two things:

1. You saw improvement with salmon
2. Itching started again with beef & lamb

I would find a limited ingredient fish based kibble (e.g., California Natural herring and sweet potato; California Natural salmon and peas). My vet thinks California Natural is one of the best simple foods to try before moving to prescription dog food. Alternatively, I would go back to NV salmon. Try a small bag of the new food and see how it goes. You will eventually find something that works for your dog.

BTW, was your dog itching when he was being fed Iams? If not, then what protein source was in the Iams. Maybe you should consider going back to Iams or a higher quality limited ingredient kibble that contains the same protein source as Iams. Hindsight is 20/20, but changing his food by 10 weeks of age may not have been a good idea. He already had so many changes in his life that you should have kept his food consistent if he was doing fine on it. Think about it, he left his litter mates whom he enjoyed playing with all day. He left his breeder who nurtured him. He left his mom. He left is environment for a new one. His food and water changed. Everything changed but the air he breathes.
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Thank you. And yes, we have noticed him scratching since day 1 at 8 weeks old. We attributed the scratching to possible fleas and then the vet thought it was mange.

I see what you are saying about the constant changes but like you said hindsight is 20/20. This is our first pup since I was a child and we are a little new to this. We just want him better and to have the best life we can give him.
You will find a solution. Sometimes it can take longer than we would like. You made the right decision to change his food if he was itching since day one. If you try a few more proteins and nothing works, then vets will typically recommend a prescription food that has hydrolized protein which essentially means the body does not react to it as an allergen because the protein molecules are too small. This would help determine if his allergy is food related or not. Personally, I would keep trying to find a limited ingredient commercial kibble that works. Good luck!!
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We are feeding Mayhem Natural Balance Sweet Potato and Venison. He is only taking 5 mg of prednisone daily. I hope we can wean him off in the next week are two. Currently his coat is looking better, hope it's not just because he is not scratching because of the prednisone. We are also waiting on the results from Dr. Dodd's Nutri-Scan.
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Dr. Dodd's Results..

We got the results back from the Nutri-Scan and out of the 20 antigens, Mayhem isn't allergic to any of them?? What else should we be looking at it. The vet says we should get bloodwork done and see if that shows anything different. How accurate is the saliva?

We are so frustrated... Help.
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Try e-mailing Dr. Dodd's. She answered several e-mails of mine at one point when Ivan was having his Thyroid tested. She'd probably know better than anyone the limitations of her test and could possibly help point you towards the next step.

I can sympathize with the struggle of figuring out what the allergen is. I still don't have Ivan figured out. I suspected chicken, but he hasn't had any lately and is still itching. I now suspect "Mixed Tocopherols" which could contain corn oil. Ivan's original food, TOTW Pacific Stream, which he did well on, doesn't list Mixed Tocopherols. His current food, Canidae Pure SEA, does. Last night he stole a bag of treats and was itching up a storm. Those treats contained Mixed Tocopherols.
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My guy is allergic to corn and I have to read labels with a fine tooth comb. Even the moistening agent injected into turkey breasts has corn in it. It doesn't say specifically on the label (vegetable oil) but it's enough to set him off.

One thing that helps us is that the second I notice bumps I dose him with benadryl for a couple of days and that fixes it.....until next time.
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We got the results back from the Nutri-Scan and out of the 20 antigens, Mayhem isn't allergic to any of them?? What else should we be looking at it. The vet says we should get bloodwork done and see if that shows anything different. How accurate is the saliva?

We are so frustrated... Help.
I have been told by several vets that no reliable tests exists to identify food allergies. Trial and error seems to be the best method. I recommend you stay on the venison and potato for at least 30 days to see if it helps him.
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