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Herbal/Natural Remedies for Incontinence

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This is my first post, so kindly be gentle on me.

I have a six year old female doberman (Vera) that has incontinence. Our holistic vet says it is probably spay related. We had her on prion for a 6 months now and after reading about the risks and her elevated sensitivity and aggression, we are trying to explore all natural remedies. For the last two days we have been trying corn silk tea (twice a day, 2.5 teaspoons) and soy milk (twice a day, 1/8 cup). Hasn't made much difference yet. I also bought some marshmallow root, uva ursi and maca powder (but haven't tried them yet).

I would like to hear from folks who have tried to cure spay related incontinence with herbal/natural treatment. I would love to hear of your successful story. Please be specific in you response, noting which herbs/natural meds you have tried, dosage, frequency and how long have you had to do it before you saw any results.

Vera is on raw food diet, organic meat with pureed vegies and ACV and salmon oil suppliment. She also takes Consequinn on a daily basis. She eats twice a day (10am in the am and 5pm at night). My partner and I absolutely love and are dedicated to her well being. Your assistance towards this end would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi and welcome to DT!

has you Vet done a culture on a urine sample?

tried the antibiotic route?

read up on Vitamin C............Cranberry Juice pills............. and Grapefruit Seed Extract.

Hugz to Vera!

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Haven't used any of these.
This web site All Natural Pet Products | Homeopathic Remedies for Dogs & Cats | Only Natural Pet Store has some products fo it.
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I had a 5 year old spayed girl who was becoming very incontinent. We tried the herbal route first, but it was not working for her. We put her on DES first to try that and it worked for about a week but that was about it. After that we had to switch her to Proin hoping that something would work. It did!

I wasn't exactly a fan of the side affects combined with the fact she was kind of mentally hazy, but the vet and I did some research to see if we could reduce the dosage. She is now on a QUARTER of the dosage a dog of her size would normally get. She gets a half tablet at night before going to bed, and unless she misses a dose she won't have any problems.

I guess basically what I was trying to say is if you can't find something herbal that works for her, I would talk to your vet about reducing the Proin dosage if you already haven't. Grace feels better on a lower dose, and I am more at ease about the possible side effects.





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has you Vet done a culture on a urine sample? tried the antibiotic route?
Thank you for your response! Yes the vet has done a culture on urine sample and all is clear.

I tried soy milk for a week and nothing. Yesterday I gave her 1/8 cup (twice, once in the am and then in the pm) ground flax seeds with her meal and boom NO leak. YAY!!! I hope this continues. Any more thoughts from you or others?

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Kyrah is incontient. I tried as long as I could to not give pronin. I tried corn silk and soy with no improvment. I used diapers on her but last summer she was swimming in it. Rather than loose my couch and/or bed I put her on pronin. I was washing diapers, blankets and comforters daily. She is raw fed also.

I am curious what did you hear about flax seed? Is it still working? I hate giving Kyrah pronin but she is an inside dog and I cant have her leaking all over everything. Her leaks are rather large.

Coco on here has an incontient girl also. She uses corn silk with good results. I would assume results from different treatments would depend on your dog and the reason and/or severity of the culprit.

Kyrah takes 50ml of pronin a day. 1/2 tablet in the morning and 1/2 at night. Over the summer when she was drinking more water I actually had to increase her to taking a whole tablet every other night instead of the 1/2. I decrease it back to 1/2 as it gets cooler.


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I am curious what did you hear about flax seed? Is it still working? I hate giving Kyrah pronin but she is an inside dog and I cant have her leaking all over everything. Her leaks are rather large .
YES! It is day 4 and Vera is dry!!! Vera used to leak while sleeping on our bed. We have an expensive natural latex mattress, which we have been trying to protect with wool protector but sometimes her pee would transcend this barrier. And alas we have replaced a few mattresses in the past. Vera is also an inside dog, so I can completely understand your woes.

Freshly ground flax seeds are rich in natural phytoestrogens that works to strengthen her bladder muscles. Since Vera's incontinence is spay related, which results in a decline of estrogen, she has benefitted from flax.

We have been feeding Vera 1/4 cup (freshly ground) flax seeds/day: 1/8 cup in the morning and 1/8 cup in the evening. And with this her leaking has completely stopped. Not a single drop. Nada . If you want to try this out, I would suggest starting with a low dosage and working yourself up (i.e. 1/16 cup in the morning and 1/16 cup in the evening) and see how she tolerates it. And good luck!
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Thank you for your response! Yes the vet has done a culture on urine sample and all is clear.

I tried soy milk for a week and nothing. Yesterday I gave her 1/8 cup (twice, once in the am and then in the pm) ground flax seeds with her meal and boom NO leak. YAY!!! I hope this continues. Any more thoughts from you or others?
Thank you for this. My girls are 8 years (sisters) at 65 lbs and have struggled with erratic nighttime incontinence since shortly after spay at 2 years. Propalin worked, then stopped over the years. In the last year it has gotten worse and I went to Stillbestrol. Took the combination to largely work, then started again. Vet did not like the estrogen... and finally out of frustration I again researched and found your message here.

THANK YOU... Up to 2 tbsp 2 X daily with food and its stopping.
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YES! It is day 4 and Vera is dry!!! Vera used to leak while sleeping on our bed. We have an expensive natural latex mattress, which we have been trying to protect with wool protector but sometimes her pee would transcend this barrier. And alas we have replaced a few mattresses in the past. Vera is also an inside dog, so I can completely understand your woes.

Freshly ground flax seeds are rich in natural phytoestrogens that works to strengthen her bladder muscles. Since Vera's incontinence is spay related, which results in a decline of estrogen, she has benefitted from flax.

We have been feeding Vera 1/4 cup (freshly ground) flax seeds/day: 1/8 cup in the morning and 1/8 cup in the evening. And with this her leaking has completely stopped. Not a single drop. Nada . If you want to try this out, I would suggest starting with a low dosage and working yourself up (i.e. 1/16 cup in the morning and 1/16 cup in the evening) and see how she tolerates it. And good luck!
Thank you for this. My 8 year old girls (littermates) have had erratic episodes usually night time since spay half year after spay (spay at 20 months) So hard to figure which one so used Propalin syrop on and off to maintain. In the last year its gotten worse and we tried Stillbestrol though my vet doesn't like side effects. Stopped everything and got worse to the point that I was actually considering re-homing her.
Finally out of frustration I searched and found this post. Started with finely freshly ground Flax seed 1 tsp, 2X daily with food, and after a week upped to 2 tsp ... Stopped night time and only minor daytime still... Probably behavioral but manageable.
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We used proin and didn't like it either, switched to estradiol. Only give it once a week and once every two or three weeks in the winter. Good luck with the natural route! We would love to go that way!
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