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So I am confused. The breeder on the pedigree is Sharon Summers, but the facebook page is for Denise Lee.

IS there a mix up in the documentation?

Not that is changes the fate of the puppy, Im just trying to understand if this puppy is really related to my boy.

If it is, why are they breeding a 6.5 year old dam?
Sharon Summers and Tom Herald bred the bitch together.

If Konan is your boy's daddy, then he is half brother to Halla.
If "Star" is your boy's mom, then they're full siblings.

The FB page is the woman who has Briarwoods Carpe Diem who is my pup's grandsire.

Who is the dam of Diesel?

I have the pedigrees of Konan stretching back to the beginning of time.

He's very heavy on Hertog Alpha LeDobry.




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she is no doubt missing her siblings and mom.

sounds like she may just be trying to play, all be it a bit roughly like most pups who have not yet learned that nipping hurts the one being nipped and it is not allowed.

does not sound like any pre seizure activity.

but i would keep a close eye on her temperature in case she has or does develope a brain infection from that head injury, and/or an infection at the site of the elbow injury.
Dog Head Injuries: Skull Fracture, Concussion, Seizure, and More Types

Hugz to Halla and Odhinn!
Thank you for that link!

The e-vet said Halla had a 'pain response' where her head is slightly swollen [right side, above her ear] and still has open fontanels which did not concern her.

The soft tissue swelling on her head seems to be less, now.

I have no idea what's going on inside because we're still begging and scraping up the money for her MRI.




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Thanks for the info on the aggression and thyroid. We have seen no effects or aggression at all.

This is Diesel.
Starbright is the momma
Konan is the dad.


Momma of Little Lucy and Diesel.

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illegal breeding is a state or federal crime? If it is a crime with the AKC what will they do revoke the papers. " And no, they're not the 'worst BYB" ".ok they are the second worst
apparently you have nominated the brother for the #1 spot. Cruelty is a crime!
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illegal breeding is a state or federal crime? If it is a crime with the AKC what will they do revoke the papers. " And no, they're not the 'worst BYB" ".ok they are the second worst
apparently you have nominated the brother for the #1 spot. Cruelty is a crime!
Unfortunately, this is in West Virginia where animals truly are treated as property. There is little that can be done legally.

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illegal breeding is a state or federal crime? If it is a crime with the AKC what will they do revoke the papers. " And no, they're not the 'worst BYB" ".ok they are the second worst
apparently you have nominated the brother for the #1 spot. Cruelty is a crime!
The akc will/can revoke your privileges if they catch you screwing around with the registration papers. They can make it so that you cannot register a dog you buy or breed or show. But that doesn't stop you from having someone else have the papers in their name.

As far as cruelty, as long as you provide shelter, food, water and vet care when needed you're in the clear. And that shelter can be minimal at best.
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Thanks for the info on the aggression and thyroid. We have seen no effects or aggression at all.

This is Diesel.
Starbright is the momma
Konan is the dad.

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illegal breeding is a state or federal crime? If it is a crime with the AKC what will they do revoke the papers. " And no, they're not the 'worst BYB" ".ok they are the second worst
apparently you have nominated the brother for the #1 spot. Cruelty is a crime!
The AKC has already been there and let them keep going.

The AKC is really more worried about money else they'd have shut that place down.

[I've been involved in AKC legal cases with the Ibizan Hound Club rescue and have no illusions about where their interests really lie]




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The akc will/can revoke your privileges if they catch you screwing around with the registration papers. They can make it so that you cannot register a dog you buy or breed or show. But that doesn't stop you from having someone else have the papers in their name.

As far as cruelty, as long as you provide shelter, food, water and vet care when needed you're in the clear. And that shelter can be minimal at best.
The papers are legit so there's no there, there and even animal control didn't stop them.

WV does have absolutely draconian active cruelty laws...it's an automatic felony, there...but this doesn't fall under "active cruelty".

This is 'just' stupidity.

More's the pity.





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...They have sound machines for people who can't sleep..why haven't they made a puppy comfort sound machine yet?

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OMG...you're spooky! :-O

I just got a Homedics sound thingy that has a 'heartbeat mode' for babies.
It's tucked under her brand new $5 soft microfiber throw and she's sleeping very well.

It was time to give her antibiotics and boy, does she ever have a temper.

She bit the hell outta hubby and me as we tried to get the Clindamycin syrup down her throat.

He tasted it and said if I'd tried to make him swallow it, he's would have bit me too.

It was dumb luck finding the Homedics thing.
It's raining here and all the stores are closed except WalMart.

A lady helped me find the clock aisle and then she reached down and found it on the bottom shelf...last one.

It was just exactly what I was looking for.

I gave her a heat pad to to simulate a puppy pile but she wanted nothing to do with it.

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She did scare me a bit with what looked like crazy, compulsive spinning...but it turned out she was just frantically finding precisely the right place to poop.





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OMG...you're spooky! :-O

I just got a Homedics sound thingy that has a 'heartbeat mode' for babies.
It's tucked under her brand new $5 soft microfiber throw and she's sleeping very well.

It was time to give her antibiotics and boy, does she ever have a temper.

She bit the hell outta hubby and me as we tried to get the Clindamycin syrup down her throat.

He tasted it and said if I'd tried to make him swallow it, he's would have bit me too.

It was dumb luck finding the Homedics thing.
It's raining here and all the stores are closed except WalMart.

A lady helped me find the clock aisle and then she reached down and found it on the bottom shelf...last one.

It was just exactly what I was looking for.

I gave her a heat pad to to simulate a puppy pile but she wanted nothing to do with it.

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She did scare me a bit with what looked like crazy, compulsive spinning...but it turned out she was just frantically finding precisely the right place to poop.


She sounds like a pistol and a firecracker

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She sounds like a pistol and a firecracker
I'll say.

Can't wait to see how her already bitchy, willful little personality develops later.

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How is your little girl?
Since finding out she is Diesel's full blood sister from another litter, he keeps asking me about her I certainly hope she has greatly improved and out of the woods now.

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Halla the hellion!

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[pardon all the background noise..TV was on and hubby was yapping to teach her to bark as she apparently didn't know how until about a week ago]


She's doing very well, considering and I think the cold laser 'zap' helped her eyesight.


She now tracks our hands with her eyes and runs across the floor and pounces on her toys and hardly ever bonks into things anymore.

Her balance is still a bit off when she's tired but she's just over 8 weeks old and we're hoping she'll grow out of her clumsy stage, too.


She is, however, in her Fierce DoberShark phase and biting the heck out of us.


This too, shall pass.




What a miraculous change from the limp little unconscious thing that was shoved into my hands!
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Urgh she is gorgeous! The video made me melt, so glad to hear she's doing well.



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Urgh she is gorgeous! The video made me melt, so glad to hear she's doing well.
If she grows up half as stunning as your boy, I'll be giddy...

Do you show him?

He's really a knock out!

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If she grows up half as stunning as your boy, I'll be giddy...

Do you show him?

He's really a knock out!

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Awww, thank you! I love him too, I do show him lightly.

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Awww, thank you! I love him too, I do show him lightly.

Cant wait to see more pics of your girl as she grows up.
He's the best looking natural Dobe I've ever seen.

I've been trying to get photos of her standing still...but she never does...

Right now she's in that crazy 'legs growing faster than everything else' phase.

I wish puppy-hood lasted longer.

Soon she'll be too big to cuddle.

[maybe I should get a Min Pin]

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Aww, thanks again

Ahaha, they never get too big for a cuddle!! Rupert gets on your lap like he's a min pin, then looks all bent out of shape at you because you're not comfortable, HAH! He's lying across my lap as we speak, I have the laptop on my knee and him in-between snoring loudly. I do love the puppy phase, but then I do love them being grown up too and more laid back. Rupert is 17 months old now and just starting to calm down.

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Puppy looks well! You are awesome!

By the way Amelia Rupert is such a cool name, can't remember if I already said.
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She doesn't appear to be blind, in those videos.

Has she been to a canine opthamologist? (Sorry if I missed that, in all the updates.)

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She doesn't appear to be blind, in those videos.

Has she been to a canine opthamologist? (Sorry if I missed that, in all the updates.)
Not yet but she was seen by our regular vet and he said we'd be idiots to 'waste good money' on expensive specialists when she seems, to him, to act like any other very bad little puppy who's been through hell.

Her improvements seem to be sudden and dramatic.

She went from not looking at us at all to kinda sorta looking around to now tracking our movements and pouncing upon the millions of pieces of paper she's got shredded all over the floor and, wonder of wonders, she stares us right in the face before she attacks our noses.
[hey, any little 'normal thing' is happy thing, even if it hurts like crazy]

She watches TV very closely...unfortunately, her "favorite show" seems to be wrestling.

Ugh!

So, she is seeing.His advice is to keep doing what we're doing, as far as socialization goes and to be patient.

His opinion is that she nearly died and shouldn't be expected to be at the same developmental level of a puppy who wasn't snatched from the jaws of death.

Her 'weird eye' seems to be more aligned than it was and that's the only thing he's watching with concern.
If it doesn't straighten out in a month, then we'll be taking her either to an eye vet or for the neuro eval.
[probably the latter as they do everything in one shot]

So, for now, she goes for her checkups every week and has started her vaccines.

At the end of the month, she's getting her follow-up CBC to make sure her anemia, etc is better and yet another worm test.

She was positively loaded with roundworms.

I think she's got a bit of mange on her head too so I'm going to be putting Nu-Stock on that for a while to see if clears it up.

[her runt sister had a lot of hair loss]
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