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Old 10-02-2012, 12:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Doberman vomiting, not eating, listless, appears to be in pain...

Doberman vomiting, not eating, listless, appears to be in pain... He has been drinking a lot of water, moving stiffly.

We just went on a trip and left dog-sitter with him for a couple days, he was fine when we left but as soon as we walked back into the house on returning, he vomited, and there was another older vomit spot on the floor.

He seemed a little off that night we came back but the next day (today), was active enough, however he left some of his breakfast which is not normal. He went for a walk with my BF and played ball etc. Then late afternoon totally refused dinner, acting very lethargic and odd, seems stiff as though it hurts to move around, he is moving but in a stiff and careful way. I suspect tummy trouble of course. THe sitter let him get to some socks, they were not totally eaten but a couple were definitely gnawed on with small holes. I am not very happy with the sitter right now. One sock I could see him making off with but six socks?? How did he even get to them? Our socks are in drawers. I worry that he maybe ate something toxic they brought to the house such as meds or tobacco or who knows what. But the socks alone could have done it i.e. impaction. I've since talked to the sitter on the phone and they can't think of anything that could have created a problem.

I don't know if he has pooped today or not, I have been away and BF has been home, he says he saw him squatting in bushes at one point but didn't see anything that came out.

I'm taking him to the vet first thing in the morning but wondered if these symptoms ring any bells for any of you, especially if there is anything I can do until the vet clinic opens to help him out. We live very far from town but may consider taking him to the hospital in the middle of the night if he gets a lot worse, but I'm hoping we can make it through to the morning. Would you give your dog canine painkillers or anything else to help this situation? Just thinking about what we do when horses colic/ get stomach trouble~ you do give them pain killers.

Please no harsh or hysterical replies, we are already worried enough... I'm aware this could be an emergency and plan to take him in at the crack of dawn, just hoping we make it through the night.
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Personally I wouldn't wait for morning, I would take him to the e-vet asap.
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Hey girl, sorry to hear Tre is in trouble.

If your e-vet is at all competent I'd go ahead and run him in--this sounds serious.

I would NOT give painkillers, on the same principle that you don't usually medicate a colic-y horse until the vet has determined you should do so.

You don't want to mask something that may really be going south, ya know?

Sounds like at minimum he needs tummy rads, and fluids, some stabilizing care until your own vet can see him.

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Hi, thanks you two. THinking on the e-vet thing. Sucks to live out in the middle of nowhere when your animal is down, it's like an hour one way over the mountain.

Anyway, I will watch him a little more and determine what to do next.

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if he vomits up white froth....don't hesitate, try to make it to the e-vet in time. Also tap your fingers along the sides of his belly, if it is tight and rings out like a drum (timpanic), same deal...e vet ASAP.

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Boo, sorry to read your little guy is not feeling well. I agree with the others about getting to the vet ASAP. If my dog refused a meal, I'd be very concerned; he has not refused a meal in over 4 years. For some dogs, it's no sign of alarm, but my dog just doesn't not eat, ever. A wait and see approach is probably not the best move here; in some cases of GI distress, time really matters! I hope your pup pulls through alright and is back to his regular self very soon.



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Sounds like your dog has a blockage. After a couple of days they start moving very stiffly, which is a bad sign. Please get him to a emergency vet ASAP. If he needs immediate surgery you would have wasted valuable time waiting for your regular vet to open, only to find that he sends you to an emergency vet.
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Please do not listen to Josif, they have NO idea what may be wrong with your puppy and the vomiting is a symptom, not the issue itself. Puppies can deteriorate extremely quickly and such situations should be considered very, very seriously.

As for the moron pet-sitter, I hope you give them an earful and do not use them again... Sounds like they let the pup do whatever so they wouldn't have to bother with it. And you mentioned an older vomit spot? Did they just leave it there? Did it not concern them at all the puppy vomited?
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Dog sitter has been fine in past but appears to be going thru something right now and no, won't use again. This, btw, is why we don't ever go anywhere, fear of flaky animal care. We are at e-vet now, left home at 3:30am, am aware of seriousness of situation and time being a factor, have read lots and lots about impactions, bloat, twisted gut, on DT in years gone by. Just wasn't sure at first if it was a real crisis or upset tummy episode. Thanks for your advice and input peeps.
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He's getting x-rays at the moment...
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Paws crossed for you guys, fingers too.

for the poorly guy, get well soon.
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Major impaction, needs surgery, looks like a sock in there perhaps. Thanks dog-sitter. E-vet wants my regular vet to do it and has no surgeon available anyway, until later (in surgery right now), but its good we went to e-vet as my dog needs to be rehydrated before vet can do surgery. Also gave something for pain. Vet does not open for a little over an hour. It's going to be a long day/week.
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Oh poor baby. It is scary leaving them to someone else's care.
Thanks for keeping us updated on the situation, praying that all will be well!
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do''nt worried about this vomiting, I have an miture informatin for this complicated situation just take red suger and mixed it in to pure hony
then give this mixture to your dog just two time in one day and the vomiting will
be finish in a few time. its true idea.........
Do NOT give medical advice.
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I'm sorry to hear (read) about your pup! I sincerely hope the surgery goes well.

I know what it's like to be in an perpetual state of anxiety/concern for a loved one; at least now you know what the cause is and have a solution.

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Goodness, I am so thankful you got your little one to the e-vet right away. When you outlined the symptoms, it mirrored when my 5 month old swallowed a sock. It became lodged in his colon and we had to do e-surgery, on a holiday weekend, with a blizzard outside.

Hang in there and trust your vet. Your pupper is where he needs to be and praying for a speedy recovery.
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glad you got your boy to the Vet.

hope all is well.

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Just saw this thread. Please update as when you can.

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Aw thanks you guys! Really appreciate the well wishes and positive thoughts. We were lucky that our regular vet who has done 2 surgeries on Tre has agreed to come in on his day off, so we were able to leave the emergency hospital and go with trusted vet who will also charge less than the hospital (6k total!), though we'd do whatever it took to save our boy. We trust our Dr. for invasive surgery over some stranger. He was originally recommended by Tre's breeder and has seen all her dobies over the years. Anyway, just dropped him off. Never seen him so zombie-like and unresponsive. Anyway hope to shoot you guys some good news later. Thanks again!
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When I read the symptoms in your first post, obstruction was my first thought. Glad you decided to take him to the vet immediately. Best wishes for a successful outcome. You go, Tre.
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