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Reactions to Heartgard???

I started my pup on Heartgard. First dose January, 2nd Feb, 3rd March. I gave him the third dose on Friday. For the 2nd month in a row he puked a few days after giving the Heartgard. Last month he was 'puky" for 2 days, we gave him a bland diet of ground beef and rice for a few days then started mixing his regular food in again. Fine until this morning at 4am I woke up to a puking dog. He puked in the crate, partially digested dinner and some cheese from training treats at about 5pm the previous day (he gets cheese often for treats while training). So, I am assuming with partially digested food, his tummy wasnt working properly to digest dinner in the first place. He has been on the same food, so nothing different there. I looked on the heartgard website and they say reactions are within 24 hrs after taking it. So...this is happening 2-4 days after...??? Like I said I dont know if its from that or not, its just the only thing different in his routine. He also had pretty bad diareahia this morning as well. He is still his happy energectic self, you would know anything was wrong unless you saw him puke. And he still wants to eat, but I have fasted him until I get home from work and will do the rice and beef again. Have any of you had similar experiences with giving Heartgard??? Thanks

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Leave the rice out. Try just giving beef for a couple of days.
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Leave the rice out. Try just giving beef for a couple of days.
Thanks for your reply, is there a reason to leave the rice out? I am giving him long grain brown rice, not the enriched crap LOL! He is doing better, but still has some diareiah, I got some pumpkin for that yesterday.

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I would check with your vet. Perhaps something else is causing him to be sick. I worry about puppies having diarrhea for a few days.

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How old is your puppy? Has he had all his shots? Have you been to any parks or other places where other dogs go? I would be thinking along the lines of parvovirus, giardia and viral/bacterial illnesses, long before suspicion of Heartguard.
Bland diet of chicken breast, maybe some cooked oatmeal and a trip to the vet is in order ASAP!
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A couple years ago my vet switched from using Heartgard plus (the plus is the med for ascarids "worms") to Interceptor, because my vet said they had cases of some dogs showing reactions to Heartgard...Heartgard has a little different medicine than Interceptor..
I also had a puppy get sick from giving him the next size up for his weight, (the amount given is by weight), from the Heartgard. Some dogs are just more sensitive to Heartgard, and some aren't. So talk to your vet and maybe try another brand..see if that helps..
The once a month Heartworm meds work "backwards"...they don't kill what is there they PREVENT any eggs (filaria) from growing into worms...In Michigan they don't have mosquitos in Jan and Feb (at least not usually).So if you have a puppy born sometime in the early winter, they haven't been exposed beforehand , so you really wouldn't start a puppy until they are at least 8-9 wks old..The less chemicals you put into your puppy the better....at least while they are growing....just saying...whatever, ask your vet, they are your best source of whats the best route to go in your area....
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I'd get him off Heartgard - is it the Heartgard Plus? My Sarah got liver disease from taking Heartgard Plus and also my Gretchen got deathly ill after her second dose. I would recommend Interceptor, even though now we can't use it on Wolfgang because his whole body breaks out in pus filled bumps a few days after putting it on.
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I'd get him off Heartgard - is it the Heartgard Plus? My Sarah got liver disease from taking Heartgard Plus and also my Gretchen got deathly ill after her second dose. I would recommend Interceptor, even though now we can't use it on Wolfgang because his whole body breaks out in pus filled bumps a few days after putting it on.
Actually Interceptor is a chewable pill. Are you thinking of Revolution or somehing that you put on their skin?
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I also agree to check in with your vet and describe what is happening. It does not sound normal.

If it were my dog, I'd probably switch to another form of HW control. You should be able to buy 1-2 doses of one from your vet and try them before doing a 12 month supply.

I currently use Interceptor, which is Milbemycin.
I have used Sentinel in the past. It is a Milbemycin/Lufenuron based. I used this when we lived in GA which is flea heaven!

Heartgard is Ivermectin. HG Plus is Ivermectin/Pyrantel combo.

I do know of some dogs who are more intolerant of ivermec, so yours may be one. Pyrantel is a pretty common wormer for horses and dogs so imho it would be less common for this ingredient to be the culprit. I have never had a dog or horse have a reaction to pyrantel.

As in all cases like this, a call to your vet is in order for a course of action.
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How old is your puppy? Has he had all his shots? Have you been to any parks or other places where other dogs go? I would be thinking along the lines of parvovirus, giardia and viral/bacterial illnesses, long before suspicion of Heartguard.
Bland diet of chicken breast, maybe some cooked oatmeal and a trip to the vet is in order ASAP!
My dog is 10mo done with all shots. I dont suspect any of those meantioned above. Reason I think Heartgard is this happended exactly the same time last month I gave it to him within 2-3 days after. then he got better after a few days.


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Actually Interceptor is a chewable pill. Are you thinking of Revolution or somehing that you put on their skin?
He was on Revolution in the summer and I didnt like it, so I tried the Heartgard Plus. Revolution did nothing for fleas and it was expensive! I will call my vet and see about Interceptor. Thanks!

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