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Louie just ate my umbrella plant (poison)



He ate a few minutes ago, and just a few leaves. I'm not sure if I should make him vomit. But he is acting nauseated. Right now were in the back yard I'm watching him eat grass. Not quite sure what to do. Should I make him vomit?

ASPCA says "While this plant does contain potentially toxic substances, the most common effects seen are mild vomiting and diarrhea."

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Well hell. I called my vet they didn't know. WHAT THE HELL.

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maybe just let nature take its course - i.e., he'll probably eat grass and do the vomit thing.

I've heard inducing vomiting with hydrogen peroxide isn't necessarily safe. Add: the vets can give a vomit injection: we had that done with Quincy once when he ate a socky just to make sure it came up and didn't cause any problems. The vet said the vomit shot was safer than us incuding it with hydrogen peroxide, but it's money to them too so no wonder they told us that

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There is a hotline that you can call. I don't have advice to offer as I'm not there and I wouldn't know what's best for you and Louie. Good luck. I hope he feels better soon
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There is a hotline that you can call. I don't have advice to offer as I'm not there and I wouldn't know what's best for you and Louie. Good luck. I hope he feels better soon
Ya I called. They want to charge 65 dollars, which is fine, but I thought my vet would know. I'll give it a few and see if his symptoms persist. ASPCA says that it'll just cause his mouth, throat and lips to burn. Which would explain why he has quite a bit of saliva. He seems ok now, he is playing with Scooby.

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Hey, if he is playing with Scooby, that is a good sign. They salivate tons when nauseous, so I would guess that the leaves made him feel crummy. But sounds like he is getting over it. Maybe he will just get some diarrhea.
At least it was just a few leaves.

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The vet said the vomit shot was safer than us incuding it with hydrogen peroxide, but it's money to them too so no wonder they told us that
Perhaps out of concern for accidental aspiration?
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Perhaps out of concern for accidental aspiration?
yes - I think that's what they said, plus irritation to the esophagus
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I would watch him closely and I would also get some milk thistle to give him. My dog ate a peace plant and a philadendron and although she did not get sick, she did end up with elevated liver enzymes. The milk thistle will help protect his liver.

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If one of my guys ever ate anything questionable, which only happened once, as it was plant material I made them puke first, then gave them a laxative to help move things quickly through their digestive tract and a bowl of egg whites to eat to help coat their digestive system and slow the absorption of toxins.
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Is there an E-vet you can call and ask what to expect at least? Maybe they could recommend bringing him in or just continuing to watch him...

I don't know. I hope he's okay.




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He is fine now. Acting like never ever happened. Always causing problems....argh. Thanks for the help y'all.

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there are hundreds upon thousands of poisonous substances out there, and its simply not reasonable for us to know every single one of them - i dont even know what an umbrella plant IS. that is the entire purpose of poison control - i dont know every drug out there (especially when they are human drugs) - and there are people that are available 24/7 that DO know these things, and can tell you exactly how to proceed. i hope louie is ok, but ASPCA poison control IS the best way to go for ANY toxicity.

animals that are microchipped with home again and have active service through them get FREE poison control for the record. its the reason i maintain their active service on the dogs. and yes, ive had to call them TWICE for animals in my own house - i need to know exactly HOW dangerous something is, and where to go from there. and furthermore, follow up on how each animal does is what enables us to further our knowledge, since ASPCA maintains and gathers active case files on everything for other animals that eat the same thing.


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animals that are microchipped with home again and have active service through them get FREE poison control for the record. its the reason i maintain their active service on the dogs. and yes, ive had to call them TWICE for animals in my own house - i need to know exactly HOW dangerous something is, and where to go from there. and furthermore, follow up on how each animal does is what enables us to further our knowledge, since ASPCA maintains and gathers active case files on everything for other animals that eat the same thing.
!!!! I did not know that and we have homeagain! Thanks so much Kim for mentioning it.

The last time I tried to make Nina throw up w/peroxide it DID NOT work, she held her gut. I rolled her around and messed w/her too. Followed everything to the letter.

Ingestion things scare me.

OP that plant photo reminds me of a schefellerra(sp).
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omg! I'm glad everything turned out fine! poor guy. worrying people isn't very nice lol
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here is the information:

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the call was 65 not 60 when i called (my cats ironically don't have active home again service because i thought the dogs would need it more - and now i have had 3 of 4 cats with dietary indiscretion/toxin ingestion - including the most recent which is still at the hospital after i had to operate on him - the other two ate rimadyl and rah's dose of ciprofloxacin)


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!!!! I did not know that and we have homeagain! Thanks so much Kim for mentioning it.

The last time I tried to make Nina throw up w/peroxide it DID NOT work, she held her gut. I rolled her around and messed w/her too. Followed everything to the letter.

Ingestion things scare me.

OP that plant photo reminds me of a schefellerra(sp).
Yeah, that's another name for it.

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there are hundreds upon thousands of poisonous substances out there, and its simply not reasonable for us to know every single one of them - i dont even know what an umbrella plant IS. that is the entire purpose of poison control - i dont know every drug out there (especially when they are human drugs) - and there are people that are available 24/7 that DO know these things, and can tell you exactly how to proceed. i hope louie is ok, but ASPCA poison control IS the best way to go for ANY toxicity.

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Yeah, I've called poison control when needed, as well. I think it's important to get a grasp on what you're dealing with, as well as adding to the database on known reactions--might help other animals.

I've also done followup bloodwork, to know if/what happened with kidney and liver function, etc.

I pretty much gave up on having houseplants even though I love them, just a big risk I don't want to take. My guys already find creative ways to try to off themselves, no need to give them extra weapons.

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