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I second the idea of using some Musher's Secret. Shanoa had pretty sensitive pads through the winter, and we started using Musher's Secret regularly. It made a big difference for her. I also really like Tuf-foot and have been using that intermittently to help toughen up her pads since we do a lot of biking.
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What do Seb's nails look like? Length? Is the bottom of the nail a little bit soft feeling? Even if his pads look okay I agree with the folks that said to just give him a few days off between long walks... I think he's just a little sore and it will subside with rest.

Also, I don't think anyone has asked this (and please don't be offended) but how is his weight? Since dobes have such small feet and pads, carrying a little extra weight can really make a difference on the pressure going through their pads to the ground which I imagine would affect their overall endurance and recovery time.

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Thanks GK. His weight is fantastic. He might even be a little on the light side at this point.

As I said, we have been walking for months and gradually working up to 4 miles a day.

The underside of his nails look totally normal. I have only once been able to see his quick and it was the result of him jumping at the fence and literally breaking the nail off around it - it was dangling, quite visibly.

And as the day wears on, he is limping less and less. Just took him out again and I saw no visible signs of pain in his gait. At this point Im almost convinced it is toe nail related, in ways that are not visible.

Gonna wait one more day before we trek again though.
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If you think his nails are worn down it might help to put a little hemorrhoid cream on them to help the quick recede. After many folks posted about this for working back nails, I tried it on Zoo and it really does help.
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Walking up to 4 miles per day on asphalt, day after day, sounds like the problem. If he were my dog, I would rest him two or three days, then walk him on a dirt surface and see if the problem goes away.
Update on all of this:

In spite of my repeated inspections I could not find any indication of any damage anywhere on his two paws.

I did exactly what Sage said here and gave it a 3 day rest - then the first night we were out, half way around the 1.3 mile loop, IT POURED RAIN on us to the point where both my blackberry and 30gig ipod completely shut down.

We got home, dried off and went to bed. When I woke up, two of his pads were completely dangling from his paws - something Ive never seen before. Seems like the soaking did something to detach some damage that was occurring but was not at all visible to me.

Well, we took several more days off and have been very slowly working back up to the ultimate goal of at least 4 miles a day. There has been no paw licking or any limping and I still check every day to see if there is any damage.

so - for anyone who does a search and comes across this thread:

Asphalt seems to create damage that is VERY hard to detect - even in the dark or at morning or evening hours where heat cannot possibly be a factor.

Additionally, I walk bare-footed with him the whole way (always hated shoes my whole life) so even this is no window on what is possible damage wise with them.

My end analysis is that there was uniform damage going on to the entire pad and because it was so uniform and gradual, it was not visible...until a massive amount of moisture was mixed in and caused the ENTIRE pad to begin to separate, uniformly.

I hope this makes sense to any one in need in the future because like I said, it was just not visible in any way on account of the uniformity of damage - non-localized in any way and to me, completely invisible.

Thanks for the input and help. I hope this will help someone else in the future.
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Actually it's quite possible that the asphalt could make his paws sore but not your bare feet. If you think about body weight to the surface area of your big human flappers versus his compact paws, his pads are taking more pressure than are the soles of your feet.

Soreness isn't always visible - any body part, human or Dobe, can become tender without looking any different to usual.
In addition to my previous post, this is a fantastic description for what eventually manifested.
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My dobe had gotten ana actual piece of wood up his paw that we literally could not detect, when the vet pulled it out she, and we could not believe how long it was. She actually saved it for awhile!! Sort of a curiosity for her, I guess.
This is something that haunts me and I am so thankful it didn't turn out to be something like this.

But the very nature of the problem makes it exceedingly difficult to find and fix.

Just awful.

In 1978 I had a huge pain in my right foot and my folks thought I was just faking to get out of going to school.

But a Black spot started forming between my big toe and the next one and it was god awful ugly and painful. I finally bust into my folks room one night, carrying a needle, and stuck it down into the hole that was forming and said "see??"

The next day we went to the hospital and they pulled a piece of glass out of the top of my foot.

In retrospect, I remember riding my bike about a year and a half earlier - BAREFOOTED of course, and in the process of trying to learn a "wheelie" - having an epic crash where my knees and feet were completely obliterated by the pavement in front of my grandparents home.

Im certain that I picked up that piece of glass and carried it with me until my body was finally pushing it up through the toes and out the top.

Crazy schtuff

And something to remember lol...
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Aww poor Sebble
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Did you ever end up trying the Musher's Secret? I'm amazed at what a difference it makes in the summer, too. Seems to provide some extra protection from the heat of the road for their feet.
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Friction burn from the asphalt.

Is Sebastion a 'heavy' footed Boy. I mean does he 'thunder' by when he runs or is he 'light' on his feet?

I know I put way more weight on my feet than others who are even heavier than me! Conformation faults and bad posture!

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Id say he is a bit like that DLS, yes.
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