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Old 04-15-2007, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My red boy is having seizures

Titus has a seizure last night and it really has me and my husband searching for all kinds of info. We rushed him to the e-vet last night right after it happened and he had to stay the night.

We came home yesterday afternoon after running a few errands. We were gone for about 2 hours and when we got home there was urine on the floor and what appeared to be mucus. We were not sure what was going on and knew that it was not Jada as she was in her crate. I thought that maybe he was somehow reacting to her infection that she has. (Just had her at the vet on Friday for a infected vulva). Went to the DP late yesterday afternoon, everything was ok and about 10:50 last night I am on my laptop in the dining room and start hearing these very strange noises coming from the living room. I peek my head around the corner and Titus is on the love seat shaking, gasping for air and has urinated every where. I call for my husband who is in the office and he comes running. I was so scared. I kept saying this is not happening again. I thought that it was his heart. My husband got him on the floor, just in case he has to do CPR and about that time Titus started coming around. It took just a couple of minutes for him to get his wits about him but he was so scared, he didnt know what was going on. Titus stayed at the e-vet last night and I spoke with the doctor this morning and he had another one around 8:30 am. His CBC came back normal. I searched the internet last night when we got home and found that one thing that can cause seizures in an other wise healthy doberman can be hypothyroidism. I know that I am just grasping at straws but I just need to find out what is going on with my boy. They are going to keep him another night and we are going to go and pick him up in the morning and take him straight to our vet. If anyone has any similiar situations please let me know.
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Aww, I'm sorry you guys had such a rought time. I hope things get better for him. I have heard that UTI (Urinary Track Infection) can some times cause Seizures in dogs. Ask the Vet, and see what he says.

Get well soon Titus.
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Oh my gosh that is so scary I dont know anything about seizures....I hope Titus is okay now and you find the information you need. Give him a hug for me@--->--
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This is just heartbreaking I am really sorry. I had a greyhound that had seizures, the only time she would really have them is if there was alot of stress happening. I remember when I moved she had one, going to stay at the vet, or being boarded would trigger it. Basically she would stand there and start to tremble, then her eyes would glaze over and her body would stiffen up. With in a couple of minutes it would be done and she would snap out of it a little afraid. Maybe the drugs are having a bad reaction?? Or maybe the infection is causing it?? Or it could be that the stress of all what is going on has brought on the seizures?? I would def. get some more tests run.
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...His CBC came back normal. I searched the internet last night when we got home and found that one thing that can cause seizures in an other wise healthy doberman can be hypothyroidism.
tjmom,

Did they just do a CBC or did they do a full blood panel including kidney and liver values?

Either kidney disease or liver disease can cause seizures. And, unfortunately, seizures can end up with causes that are never determined.

However--a lot of seizures can be controlled with medication. Dobes are not as seizure prone as some breeds--Dalmations seem to have a lot of seizure dogs and so do Goldens.

Also when they test for thyroid values make sure they do a full thyroid panel--a straight T4 test will often be all wacked out if something else is going on--and a dog starting to have multiple seizure definitely has something else going on.

If you've got a good specialty clinic in your area it might be advantageous to get a referral to a neurologist. Sometimes the specialist is the quickest route to determining what is going on and what can be done to control it.

Good luck--seizures are just sooooo scarey.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This is just heartbreaking I am really sorry. I had a greyhound that had seizures, the only time she would really have them is if there was alot of stress happening. I remember when I moved she had one, going to stay at the vet, or being boarded would trigger it. Basically she would stand there and start to tremble, then her eyes would glaze over and her body would stiffen up. With in a couple of minutes it would be done and she would snap out of it a little afraid. Maybe the drugs are having a bad reaction?? Or maybe the infection is causing it?? Or it could be that the stress of all what is going on has brought on the seizures?? I would def. get some more tests run.
Jada is the one one the meds with the infection. It was just so weird how she got an infection (which is not an uncommon thing) and he started having seizures the same weekend.

We are most definitly going to have more tests. As soon as I pick him up in the morning from the e-vet he is going straight to our regualr vet.
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I'm so sorry to hear that. Seizures are very scary. There doesn't always have to be an outward "reason" for them as they can also be hereditary. For this reason you should definitely let his breeder know what is going on, they need to know.
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tjmom,

Did they just do a CBC or did they do a full blood panel including kidney and liver values?

Either kidney disease or liver disease can cause seizures. And, unfortunately, seizures can end up with causes that are never determined.

However--a lot of seizures can be controlled with medication. Dobes are not as seizure prone as some breeds--Dalmations seem to have a lot of seizure dogs and so do Goldens.

Also when they test for thyroid values make sure they do a full thyroid panel--a straight T4 test will often be all wacked out if something else is going on--and a dog starting to have multiple seizure definitely has something else going on.

If you've got a good specialty clinic in your area it might be advantageous to get a referral to a neurologist. Sometimes the specialist is the quickest route to determining what is going on and what can be done to control it.

Good luck--seizures are just sooooo scarey.
The doctor said they checked as much of the blood work as their lab is capable. They did check liver and kidney function but he stated that his lab was not able to check for thyroid function but did agree that I should have that checked with my regular vet.

It was soooooooo scary. It just took me back two years ago when my Magnus collasped suddenly one Sunday morning in my husband's arms and died right on the spot. NO WARNING.

So far this does seem to be something that can be treated and we will do whatever it takes to make sure that Jada's big brother comes home.
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Poor Titus...TJmom, is it possible he ate something bad at the DP, like weeds or grass or something sprayed w/insecticide there?
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Poor Titus...TJmom, is it possible he ate something bad at the DP, like weeds or grass or something sprayed w/insecticide there?
I thought that he could have gotten into something at the house but so far they have not found anything. He started having the seizures before we went to the park and we keep a pretty good eye on him on the park. I'm not saying that he could not have gotten into something last week but we usually are pretty good about watching him and Jada. I just want my red boy home.
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