Herb2relax

I really didnt put it together about the raw feeding. I started feeding raw within a month or two of her being spayed. The water intake is so much less with raw feeding. This past winter I was hoping it was gone. But it has returned with summer. When she plays in the hose its the worst! But sometimes we gotta pay to play! She is laying on the side of me on the couch with her "big girl panties on." LOL thats what we call them. I am about to purchase some rubber back rugs for the couches to put under the blankets I keep on them. That was suggested by another member. Can not remember who. But thanks!

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IamCoralReef

have a 1 year and 3 month old Dobey. She was spayed and had a stomach tack on May 9th, so a little over a month ago. She rested, ate, and healed very well just fine for about two weeks then she started peeing in the house once a day particularly in the evening time, and when she was distracted with a toy or was trotting over to greet a family member. She would stop what she was doing, squat and unleash a lot of pee (like she had been holding it all day) with no time to really head out the doggy door to pee.
I understand the lack of estrogen levels and sphincter muscle contribution has a lot to do with this.
She peed in the house each day for about 5 days.
So that was a month ago, (she hasn't peed in the house again after those previous 5 days)
Also for the past three weeks she as been drinking water excessively.
Before the spay, she drank more water than our two basset hounds which is normal, but now its ridiculous.
We would take the water away and she would go searching for it in other places like the tray below a plant and such. Currently she still does this, and pees very frequently (which could be a result from her drinking so much water) but she doesn't have a problem holding her bladder when she sleeps at night. Nor does she race out the doggy door right when she wakes up to go pee. There isn't really an urgency.
But when we went hiking the other day through a long stream, she was constantly sipping up water in between running and stopping, and peeing literally every 2 minutes (a small amount each time).
I have a feeling her frequent peeing is from her drinking too much water.
If she doesn't drink water, then she doesn't pee frequently.
I hear that after a stomach tack, dogs tend to drink a lot of water because they are healing and such, but its been over a month and she still drinks a ton.
Her full blood panel before the surgeries was normal,
but i am considering going to the Vet to have a urinary test done now just to be safe.
Fingers crossed!

newdobiemum

my mix breed tazzy developed this condition . . At around a year old! She does great on proPalin . . She seems to be ok now she is off medication and hasnt had a leak yet. . Lol touch wood. . She was really really bad whilst she sleeps she peed and walked she peed sat down she peed! Now she seems to be much better! But our local animal humane desexed her we rescued her and she was desexed at 7 or 8 weeks and they stuffed her up . . Desexed her too young and did a bad job but she is a perfect dog! Wouldnt trade her for the world! !

LuvMyDobes

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Daisygirl

We dealt with this big time when Daisy was put on high doses of Lasix (diuretic) for her CHG . . couldn't give PPA becuase of the effect on the heart, and the DES did not work at all . . . we were stumped. Until we found a homeopathic vet, she put together a remedy that works 100% for her; in fact, our regular vet is now ordering it for her incontinent male! think its a mixture of horsetail/cornsilk / something else. it's not cheap, but it works.

midnightrayne

I asked my vet when my girl started leaking if it was due to being spayed he said no he's seen intact bitches leak. He stated it has nothing to do with being spayed its just genetic

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brujj1

My dog has been doing this once in a while after heavy exercise and i took her to one vet who told me the urine test was fine so it might be because of spaying. BUT I didn't trust this and went to another vet who did the urine test again and found crystals in urine. Those crystals are very dangerous because they can turn into stones and the surgery follows. Doctor gave me a new diet which I have to feed her to reduce the level of very high alkaline (Ph 8.0) level in her. I am so glad I went to another vet without delaying the problem. The leaking might be due to many different problems, acid level, alkaline level, bacteria presence, infection, stones.... you have to go get it checked maybe twice like me.

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Maui's mom

I had one female dobe that was incontinent after spaying her. I have had numerous females of different breeds that have never had a problem. Maui isn't spayed yet, and I'm a little nervous about it. I don't want the same thing to happen to her.

4RosesTess

I have had three dobergirls, two were fine, one had incontinence and took DES one tab per week and it controlled it. I am wondering if the laproscopic spaying for my next girl would make any difference? Anyone know about this

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the_discowhore

Elsie had a laproscopic spay at 6 months old... So far so good! (only been 3 months though!)

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hannah6

Both of my doberman girls were spayed at about 6 months. The first one, Greta, developed incontinence, Hannah did not. Luck of the draw. : (

For Greta, the vet put her on DES. It worked, stopped the incontinence. At one point we had her down to one pill per week and that worked for a long time, years, then she had a couple of episodes of incontinence, so we upped the dose again. We managed to get her down to one pill every three days and that has been working now for a long time. The vet says we don't want to decrease it anymore because if she becomes incontinent again we may not be able to get it under control with DES and will have to go with less desirable alternatives.

DES is relatively side effect free at the low doses involved in controlling incontinence. At least that's what my vet says and my research confirms this.

I hate having to give my dog a drug, but life is so much better without the incontinence. It was so sad seeing her wake up and looking with surprise at the wet bedding as if to say, "what happened here?!"

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Sherryh

My female started a year ago wetting the bed and areas . I started with one pill of cornsilk 450mg daily. I just started last month going for 2 pills daily and we have no leakage or problems. I lean to the holistic side of treatment.

hannah6

Why did you change to two pills daily last month?

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DreamValley

Interesting poll results... more than 50% females on DT developed incontinence after the spay.

That's the main reason I hold on spaying Asha.
I didn't find it troublesome to own two intact dogs...and we are not planning to have puppies.

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the_discowhore

Hold out forever? My experience has been that bitches spayed late are more likely to develop SI. All of our Dobe bitches spayed ~ 6 months were fine, the ones done at 4-5 developed incontinence almost right away

It's such a double edged sword, leaving bitches intact longer leads to higher chances of mammary cancer... Having a bitch that was spayed old, developed SI AND mammary cancer... It's not fun

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Sherryh

I spoke to my vet and she suggested using 2 and it's solved my problems.