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My pup still doesn't seem right

This video taken last is about 2 hours after she ate. She does this in the evenings after I feed her. She gets up and sits up and then tries to puke I guess but nothing comes out. Any ideas? Right now she is laying down and has to be stretched out long when normally she is curled up. She has gotten up about 4 times in the last 20 minutes and stretches and lays back down. Any help with this is appreciated. She is 9 weeks old had her first set of shots and I take her to work with me daily and she chills in the truck. I don't have her around other animals. https://youtu.be/lLQJJhQ75Eo


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Looks like hiccups or indigestion. What are you feeding? How much? How many times per day? Do you soak it?
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In the video, she is just hiccuping. Some puppies do. My GSD still does it occasionally at five years.

However, if you think she is acting like she is experiencing stomach or abdominal pain, then you should either take her to the emergency clinic (if there is one in your area) or call your vet's emergency number to arrange for her to be seen.


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Why Do Puppies Get Hiccups? - Petful

"hiccups occur when your pup’s diaphragm becomes irritated, possibly from eating or drinking too fast. Nervousness or excitement can also cause hiccups in a puppy."

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Kelly had hiccups a few times, as a puppy.
Took us 3 months of putting kibble in muffin tins, to slow her eating down.

I discussed thread with the wife - she suggests honey on tip of pups tongue.

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Hiccups Cure: How to Stop Hiccups

- These spasms of your diaphragm muscle are not harmful, but until you find a hiccups cure, they can drive you nuts.
- Enjoy a little honey. Put 1 teaspoon of honey, stirred in warm water, on the back of your tongue, and swallow it. Like dill, honey could potentially tickle the vagus nerve to make the hiccups stop. Bonus: Honey is also a known infection fighter and cough soother.

The cause depends on who you ask. The ancient Greeks thought hiccups were violent emotions erupting from body. Today, evidence points to spasms in the diaphragm, the large muscle between the chest and abdomen that aids airflow during breathing (the medical term for hiccups is synchronous diaphragmatic flutter). A spasm of the diaphragm can be brought on by any number of things that might irritate the nerves that control the movement of the muscle. A full stomach, heavy boozing, rapid shifts in temperature either inside or outside of the stomach, and certain emotions like shock or excitement are all common culprits.

No matter the cause*, the result is the same. The diaphragm spasms and causes us to take a quick breath. The sudden rush of air causes the epiglottis (the flap that protects the space between the vocal cords) to shut and interrupt the breath, which makes the familiar "hic" sound.

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- Honey can cure almost anything, including hiccups! A teaspoon of honey is all it takes to get rid of those unwanted hiccups. Mix the teaspoon of honey in a glass of warm water, and allow it to slide onto the back of your tongue before swallowing.
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Your film looks like the hiccups. But she does look a little uncomfortable (or maybe she is just a little sleepy)?

However,

1. If she getting up and stretching out a lot, especially in this position--

2. Arching her back and standing rigidly,
3. Seems to be sensitive or doesn’t want you to touch her abdominal area, which feels unusually hard, tense or swollen
4. If she is gagging or retching, with or without vomiting--
5. If she is getting up and then lying back down a lot and can’t seem to get comfortable,
6. If she basically looks miserable--

and it is more frequent, worse or different tonight than what you normally see--

If she has more severe symptoms like these:

"Lethargy
Trembling
Crying, Whimpering
Abnormal posture (i.e., may be "guarding" the stomach by curling up, or leaning forward with back end higher in attempt to relieve pain)
Heavy breathing
Swollen abdomen (may be rigid to the touch
Diarrhea, which may be black (also referred to as melena)
May have vomiting if the stomach or intestines are involved”


From Pet MD Painful Abdomen in Dogs | petMD

Then you should get her to an emergency vet to evaluate whether she is bloating or in severe abdominal distress.
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Looks like hiccups or indigestion. What are you feeding? How much? How many times per day? Do you soak it?


Feeding orjen 1/3 cup with canned food 4 times per day. Recently switched to blue acana (? I think) with a boiled chicken breast and a 1/2 spoon of yogurt (once a day on the yogurt)


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My pup still doesn't seem right

Hiccups. Jack got them quite often when we first got him. Just eventually stopped.


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Your film looks like the hiccups. But she does look a little uncomfortable (or maybe she is just a little sleepy)?

However,

1. If she getting up and stretching out a lot, especially in this position--

2. Arching her back and standing rigidly,
3. Seems to be sensitive or doesn’t want you to touch her abdominal area, which feels unusually hard, tense or swollen
4. If she is gagging or retching, with or without vomiting--
5. If she is getting up and then lying back down a lot and can’t seem to get comfortable,
6. If she basically looks miserable--

and it is more frequent, worse or different tonight than what you normally see--

If she has more severe symptoms like these:

"Lethargy
Trembling
Crying, Whimpering
Abnormal posture (i.e., may be "guarding" the stomach by curling up, or leaning forward with back end higher in attempt to relieve pain)
Heavy breathing
Swollen abdomen (may be rigid to the touch
Diarrhea, which may be black (also referred to as melena)
May have vomiting if the stomach or intestines are involved”


From Pet MD Painful Abdomen in Dogs | petMD

Then you should get her to an emergency vet to evaluate whether she is bloating or in severe abdominal distress.


She had every symptom you named.


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I would get her in for an ultrasound for a suspected partial blockage - and I would not wait. x rays are often worthless for blockages as a lot of things won't show up in them.
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I would get her in for an ultrasound for a suspected partial blockage - and I would not wait. x rays are often worthless for blockages as a lot of things won't show up in them.
The OP has two threads on this topic. My pup is miserable. Vet says it's nothing.

I sincerely hope he has his pup at a good vet and is taking appropriate measures at this point. The forum has been crystal clear that quality vet care is needed.
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I do not know how to combine the posts as one. I have taken her to the vet twice since posting. She had obstructions. We changed her diet to facilitate passing the objects. Check up today revealed she has passed them.


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Glad to read she is still with you and has seen 2 vets. There could be intestinal damage that is continuing to cause a problem. The stress could have caused an ulcer making it hard for her eat. At this point I would want a full blood panel and check up to try to determine what else could be going on. Have you talked to the breeder?? What did they say???

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The problem with combining two threads like these two is that the posts are ordered according to date posted and that can create problems with continuity.

So I’m going to close this thread. Anyone who wants to find out more about this puppy can go to this link:

My pup is miserable. Vet says it's nothing.
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