raw feeding faq - Page 3

stasi · 10-05-2005, 09:50 AM

how about some carbs such as brown rice and or oats?

also what do you think about this product;

http://www23.netrition.com/udos_choi...#UdosChoicePet

doberkim · 10-05-2005, 07:04 PM

some people feed cards, some people do not. i personally dont because i dont think there is much use for them in MY dogs diets, and they dont need them. they get some occassionally of course - the random cookie here and there from strangers, some people food, etc...

the oil, well - if you want to use it i am sure it wont hurt. but my dogs arent vegetarians and dont need veggie oil sources

MissGretchen · 10-09-2005, 11:30 AM

Is there a reason why I could give kibble with raw? I'm on a fixed income. I do feed a good kibble, but could not go totally raw.

**Lexus** · 10-09-2005, 11:34 AM

IMO some raw is better than none! I would just make sure it is separate feedings.

stasi · 10-09-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by doberkim

some people feed cards, some people do not. i personally dont because i dont think there is much use for them in MY dogs diets, and they dont need them. they get some occassionally of course - the random cookie here and there from strangers, some people food, etc...

the oil, well - if you want to use it i am sure it wont hurt. but my dogs arent vegetarians and dont need veggie oil sources

dont carbe = energy. obviously so does fat.
so if he isnt eating too many fats or carbs then what is his energy source?
also that link I provided if you scroll down doberkim you will come to "udos choice for pets"......this has a bunch of ingredients in it. This isnt just the oil that is on top of the page for humans. so scroll down the page and have a look;
http://www23.netrition.com/udos_choi...#UdosChoicePet

Also shouldnt chicken be cooked.....boiled? isnt it dangerous to feed raw chicken?

How about something like this;
Raw meat (beef/kangaroo or chicken *cooked*?)
A bit of brown rice
A heaped teaspoon of Udos choice for pets
1 multi vitamin tab
1 fish oil cap.

Another thing I am concerned about is his poops. I guess I would have to feed him this in small amounts first so he can get use to it.

**TracyJo** · 10-09-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MissGretchen

Is there a reason why I could give kibble with raw? I'm on a fixed income. I do feed a good kibble, but could not go totally raw.

Gretchen,
I have been supplementing my pups food with Raw for several weeks now. Not quite 1/2 of her meals are raw. I feed what I can get a good price on, sometimes beef sometimes chicken or her favorite turkey wings and necks. The cost of feeding exclusively raw was at first a consideration but then after a little research I learned that feeding exclusively raw to a growing pup isn't advisable. I don't feed raw and kibble at the same time though... Today for instance she had kibble for breakfast but then a chicken breast for a late dinner/lunch... She is gaining and growing very well and her coat is phenominal :-)

MissGretchen · 10-09-2005, 11:59 AM

Tracy, thank you. I'm going to give this some thought. Guess I should have mentioned that I have 3 grown dobe rescues, 2.5yrs., 7yrs. and 9yrs. which is why I stated I couldn't afford to go totally raw. Just out of curiosity, why shouldn't you mix the kibble and raw?

stasi · 10-09-2005, 12:08 PM

give this a read;

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

it says no vegetables and grains......ONLY meat.

I cannto understand

I read articles that say do this and do that and others that say the complete opposite!!!!!

**Lexus** · 10-09-2005, 01:27 PM

So many good questions!
Ok, there is bacteria everywhere. Dogs have an amazing immunity system specifically designed to eat all manner of bacteria. And a healthy raw fed fed dog manages those bacteria without a problem.

E-coli, salmonella, etc are found on raw chicken, but those nasties are also found in your fridge, in your sink, on your floor, in your backyard, in your car, on the footpath, down at the park, and perhaps in your bed! Interestingly, the only cases I have heard of dogs dying from e-coli or salmonella, were dogs fed commercial dog foods.

The most important thing is to wash your hands thoroughly after feeding your dogs, and even after cutting up meat for your own meals. Our digestive systems are not quite as robust as our dogs, so we must protect ourselves.

I use a spray bottle containg white vinegar which I spray about when I need some disinfecting.

I have been feeding my animals a raw for several years, and have yet to have a problem with bacterial infections with my dogs. They are so darn healthy, they are never at the vets! Well, except for when I got them micro-chipped.

Additionally I have raised a number of litters all successfully on a raw diet.

Stasi, this is an exerp from the link you posted about bacteria and raw chicken. That should answer your question about bacteria. Personally, after Lex eats I just hit the floor with lysol and wipe it off. All clean.

As for the stools, when I switched Lexus over I fed half and half kibble and raw for about a 3 or 4 days then switched fully over as she was showing no signs at all of loose stool.

As for grains and such that link also provides an excellant referance to that, dogs with allergies are frequently related to the grains in their foods. So IMO I back Kim on that, they aren't necassary.

I do feed (probably more for my own mental wellbeing than my dog's need of it) a 1-2 blended frozen icecubes that consist of bananas, brocelli, calves liver, & cored apples. It was less than 5 dollars for all the ingedients to provide her with over a months worth. (BLended it all and froze in ice cube trays.) She loves the extra treat, and I know it is doing no harm and at least a little good.

About the cost, if you really scan the stores and butchers for deals you can make out really cheap. For example, in the sunday paper today I noticed SuperK has chicken quarters for 39c a pound. Often times you can get organ meat free if not dirt cheap from a butcher. Not that it is really all that expensive at the grocery store though.

It is definelty IMO after the research I've done on it, the very best thing I could do for Lexus, so I'm all for it. But what to feed is a decision that must be made by the owner to do what they feel is best for their dogs.

Dobe_Paws · 10-09-2005, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stasi

give this a read;

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

it says no vegetables and grains......ONLY meat.

I cannto understand

I read articles that say do this and do that and others that say the complete opposite!!!!!

You'll find a lot of that about raw feeding. My personal feeling is there's no one right way to go about it. As long as you're covering your bases on what nuritients they're getting in their food and getting a variety then it doesn't matter if you want to feed veggies or dairy or even a little grains as part of the diet. My advice to you is if you're serious about this, pick up some books on the subject, read em cover to cover and figure out which one you feel most comfortable with and go with it.